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re: to be fair, Hello Dolly vs Music Man
Last Edit: Chazwaza 06:54 pm EST 02/14/22
Posted by: Chazwaza 06:50 pm EST 02/14/22
In reply to: re: to be fair, Hello Dolly vs Music Man - PlayWiz 06:20 pm EST 02/14/22

I'm not trying to compare the quality of the writing, I'm saying I think the song in Hello Dolly are much more the kind that bring out the kind of reception Rudin would want, and the role of Dolly has much more enthusiasm and love in the heart of the musical theater crowds than does Hill. I think way more people were ecstatic to get a dose of the broadway medicine that Bette as Dolly sounds like than what Hugh as Hill (or anyone as Hill) sounds like. And the shows as a whole, I think Dolly inspires more warmth and "musical medicine" feeling than Music Man does. I adore both shows and think both are great, but I do think Music Man is a technically better piece of score writing (both have some weaknesses in the book, but both disguise and wear them very well).

We can even boil it down to the adoration of female musical theater star and lead roles vs male... it's just observably more for the female stars and the roles written for them.

We also had a big Music Man revival 22 years prior to this revival, which many of the audiences for this revival saw, and we have a beloved movie with a definitive performance in the role by the original Hill (and only actor ever associated with the role). We hadn't seen a Dolly on Broadway with a new star in the first cast since the 60s original (the many replacements, and Carol remountings, don't count)... and while I love the movie and Babs' performance, even more than most, it isn't considered the definitive performance of Dolly Levi nor is it by the beloved and famous originator of the role.
So I think the shows are working with pretty different specs when you break it down past "beloved broadway classic with a super star playing the lead role".
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re: to be fair, Hello Dolly vs Music Man
Last Edit: PlayWiz 12:01 am EST 02/15/22
Posted by: PlayWiz 12:00 am EST 02/15/22
In reply to: re: to be fair, Hello Dolly vs Music Man - Chazwaza 06:50 pm EST 02/14/22

Either show can work with someone not a super star playing the role if they are good. I saw a young person's theater a few years ago in NY who jobbed in a Yale student for their Harold Hill, and he was one of the better Harold Hills I've ever seen. The show was pretty well cast, though younger than usual for a few roles, but it still delivered. And i wasn't disappointed by the expectation of dashed hopes of a big star like Dick Van Dyke, who should have been good, but wasn't and almost dragged down his whole production (with the exception of his Marian). Even if Jackman got all around great reviews, he's not worth the price of a round trip ticket to Europe or to Los Angeles depending on the ticket price.
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