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Encores! mission.
Posted by: portenopete 10:00 am EST 02/16/22
In reply to: re: finally - Musicals54 08:08 am EST 02/16/22

The stories of almost every culture- certainly the ones that went on to become "great"- have genocide and caste systems woven into their history. I don't know how open and honest other cultures have been about their checkered histories, but the United States has been particularly good at deftly sweeping it under the rug. But we've been ever so slowly taking forward-facing steps toward acknowledging and rectifying the unpleasant aspects of our history and sometimes that change goes into warp speed for a few years and then settles down for a bit.

The self-abnegation that has become the hallmark of liberal White culture strikes me as pure fashion for most younger people and the insincere but terrified reaction from those in power smacks of desperation and fear. But it is doing its damage and I don't think anything productive is being gained from the warping of something as innocuous and ultimately transitorily diverting as an Encores! staged reading of a forgotten musical. Trying to make it into something profound and capable of changing history is a ludicrous display of self-aggrandisement and delusions of grandeur.
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re: Encores! mission.
Posted by: hanon 08:49 pm EST 02/16/22
In reply to: Encores! mission. - portenopete 10:00 am EST 02/16/22

"I don't know how open and honest other cultures have been about their checkered histories, but the United States has been particularly good at deftly sweeping it under the rug."

Are you serious? I'm 65 years old and I feel like I've heard plenty about America's (very real) sins. Do you honestly think talking about America's racism and colonialism has only been going on for a few weeks now?
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re: Encores! mission.
Posted by: portenopete 11:20 pm EST 02/16/22
In reply to: re: Encores! mission. - hanon 08:49 pm EST 02/16/22

No, not for a few weeks, but not much more than a few decades. I'm 56 and from what I know from American popular culture there wasn't a whole hell of a lot of national discussion about race issues until the 1950's when brave Black people and brave White people began standing up en masse to the power structure that was actively working to maintain the status quo.

Yes, there were isolated works that considered the thorny American relationship with race, but they were few and far between.
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another HUGE Amen.
Posted by: ShowGoer 11:14 am EST 02/16/22
In reply to: Encores! mission. - portenopete 10:00 am EST 02/16/22

“ The self-abnegation that has become the hallmark of liberal White culture strikes me as pure fashion for most younger people and the insincere but terrified reaction from those in power smacks of desperation and fear. But it is doing its damage and I don't think anything productive is being gained from the warping of something as innocuous and ultimately transitorily diverting as an Encores! staged reading of a forgotten musical. Trying to make it into something profound and capable of changing history is a ludicrous display of self-aggrandisement and delusions of grandeur.”

I don’t think I’ve ever seen this argument so well-said, as it applies to art in general and Encores in particular. You (or someone you know) should post it as a response on the Times website.
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