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| Posted by: Bway802er 03:20 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: Will poor reviews hurt the music man? - huskyital 03:17 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| People who want to see Wolverine in person don't care what critics think | |
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| Posted by: Leon_W 08:08 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: No - Bway802er 03:20 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Didn’t sell very well, proving that even a star like Jackman can’t always sell tickets in a bad vehicle for him / unsatisfying play even in just about as small as Broadway venues get. As an aside, Im glad I saw the play and twice in a few days in previews with two different endings. Two sets of friends got me a ticket. It was definitely to me a piece where you have to fill in the gaps yourself to explain what was happening. Unless anyone has a definitive overview? Not Jez Butterworth’s best. I recall that it has great meaning for him though. |
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| Actually... | |
| Posted by: ryhog 06:37 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: No - Bway802er 03:20 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Your statement is likely true but it does not address the original question. There is not a market sufficient to fill the theatre without regard to what critics think or any other factor. If one person does not buy tickets, the production is "hurt." If one person won't pay as much, the production is hurt. It is dead wrong to say that the producers don't care about middle class NYC audiences. Only an idiot doesn't care about every fucking seat in the house. It is producing 101. Can Jackman sustain a decent box office for his duration in the show? Yes. Will the show survive long without him? Maybe. Doubtful. Do the producers realize that? Yep. Are sales right now far too soft for a show structured on this model. Definitely. | |
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| I am here for cursing ryhog | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 07:26 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: Actually... - ryhog 06:37 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| The beast unleashed, I love it. | |
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| re: I am here for cursing ryhog | |
| Posted by: theaterisok 09:12 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: I am here for cursing ryhog - Singapore/Fling 07:26 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Me, too! | |
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| re: I am here for cursing ryhog | |
| Posted by: Roman 11:12 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: I am here for cursing ryhog - theaterisok 09:12 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| It IS kinda sexy, isn’t it? | |
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| re: Actually... | |
| Posted by: Roman 07:14 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: Actually... - ryhog 06:37 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| To your point, a pal was so excited about this production, he bought pairs to see it several times over the run. He has since returned them. He didn’t dislike it as much as I did, but he was definitely in the “once was enough” camp. He must have seen the Dolly revival 10 times. | |
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| Posted by: KingSpeed 07:35 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - Roman 07:14 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Your pal sounds cool. So much love for theater. | |
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| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 07:50 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - KingSpeed 07:35 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Returning tickets to a show you’ve seen once and don’t want to see again = No love for theater? Come on, dude, that’s extreme. |
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| re: Actually... | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:01 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - Singapore/Fling 07:50 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| I didn't say he didn't have love for theater. Maybe you thought I was being sarcastic? | |
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| re: Actually... | |
| Posted by: Roman 07:43 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - KingSpeed 07:35 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| I can’t tell if you’re being serious or sarcastic, but holy smokes, the theater is his life. Dramas, comedies, musicals, avant-grade. He’s easily a once-a-weeker. He adored Dolly, can wax poetic on the different actresses who played her, and each of their strengths and choices in the role. Don’t ask him about the original production of Follies, unless you have an evening to spare. The Music Man is one of his favorites, to be sure. The last revival he raved and raved. So, that he’s calling it quits on this one after one viewing is … remarkable. |
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| re: Actually you said what a lot of us feel | |
| Posted by: FinalPerformance 08:06 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - Roman 07:43 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| It's now becoming a status symbol in saying enough is enough. Let Linda & Joe, who own a car dealership in Wyoming go to this show. They sound like folk that like to sing along with the actors on stage. Just another show where electric shock wires are attached to seats. Those standing ovations are now mandatory everywhere. | |
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| re: Actually you said what a lot of us feel | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 08:18 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually you said what a lot of us feel - FinalPerformance 08:06 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Actually, they prefer "The Laramie Project." | |
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| re: Actually... | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 07:59 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - Roman 07:43 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| I was being serious. I love people who love theater. Hearing about someone buying several pairs of tickets throughout the run of the show before it starts is so sweet. Especially that he went to Dolly 10 times. I want to have dinner with him to hear about Follies. I love The Music Man too and I'm torn. I definitely wanted to see the show before the reviews came out but it was because I was curious about Sutton's Marian. While the reviews have turned me off to the show, a lot of the reviews seem to like her which makes me think maybe I should still see it. But only through Rush seats. | |
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| Posted by: Roman 11:04 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - KingSpeed 07:59 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| He would tell you she’s a treat. But the evening suffers from not having a true soprano, particularly on “Til There Was You.” | |
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| Posted by: KingSpeed 11:07 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - Roman 11:04 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| I was hoping Sutton had a true soprano in her. If not, less interested. Was willing to get up at 5am for tix. Maybe not now. | |
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| Posted by: Roman 11:14 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Actually... - KingSpeed 11:07 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| I’ve seen it. Don’t. Get your rest. You’ll get more out of it. It is an especially frustrating mess because it didn’t need to be this way. A wild disappointment and misfire. | |
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| Last Edit: Delvino 06:44 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| Posted by: Delvino 06:44 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: Actually... - ryhog 06:37 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| “Can Jackman sustain a decent box office for his duration in the show? Yes. Will the show survive long without him? Maybe. Doubtful. Do the producers realize that? Yep. Are sales right now far too soft for a show structured on this model. Definitely.” The best appraisal of the odds and unknowns I’ve read. |
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| re: No | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 05:50 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 05:47 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: No - Bway802er 03:20 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Linda and Joe have no plans to visit NYC anytime soon. I don't think the "see Wolverine in person" in NYC is as big an audience as you think. And a lot of people who are fans of Wolverine do not like musicals and would never pay $700 to see one. Furthermore, the $700 tickets are already being listed for less now so there's our answer. They'll still make a lot of money but they won't make the amount they would've made with good reviews. Also- when considering $700 tickets, yes, they will read reviews. | |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 08:07 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - KingSpeed 05:47 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Is Joe the salesman Linda married after Willy died? If so, they're probably too old to make the trip during Covid-time (disclaimer: I'm 64 before anyone accuses me of ageism). | |
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| LOL nm | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:10 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - BruceinIthaca 08:07 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: carolinaguy 03:38 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: No - Bway802er 03:20 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| The Boy from Oz didn't get good reviews, right? And it was a near-impossible ticket. The only thing I think it might do is reduce the top price they are able to get. |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: hanon 07:43 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - carolinaguy 03:38 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| It's possible to be a hit and not be as big a hit as Hello Dolly. It will definitely run the length of Jackman's contract, and earn a profit. But it won't be the money printing press that some shows are, and that some hoped Music Man would be. | |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 04:56 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - carolinaguy 03:38 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Linda and Joe from Wichita haven't read the review. They are just thrilled a big movie star is on stage. That's whom the $700 ticket is targeted to. Producers don't particularly care about the middle class NY theatregoers. |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 08:09 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - Zelgo 04:56 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Did Linda say to Joe,"I don't say he's a great actor. Hugh Jackman never won an Oscar. He never received a Kennedy Center Honor. He's not the finest character that ever lived. But he's a human being, and a terrible thing is happening to him. So attention must be paid. He's not to be allowed to fall into his grave like an old dog. Attention, attention must finally be paid to such a person." | |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: Ordoc 12:07 am EST 02/19/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - BruceinIthaca 08:09 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| BruceinIthaca - I'm always amused by old queens who think they are still funny. | |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 06:20 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - Zelgo 04:56 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| I'm sorry. I wouldn't pay $700 to see ANYONE. | |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 08:10 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - Chromolume 06:20 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Not even Margo Channing in "The Hairy Ape"? (I would!) | |
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| re: No | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:14 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - BruceinIthaca 08:10 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| I paid $700 for a courtside seat to an NBA playoff game because it was like a computer error and should've been priced at around $2000-3000 so I said, hey, I'm getting a deal here for a once in a lifetime event. We came back from 23 down and won the game. I cried and stood. | |
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| Last Edit: Delvino 05:31 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| Posted by: Delvino 05:31 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - Zelgo 04:56 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| It remains to be seen whether “Linda and Joe from Wichita” are NYC bound. Linda and Joe are part of the 62% of the Broadway audience that hasn’t yet fully returned. Nothing yet suggests a duplication of the Midler - Dolly success story - seats are available - but it’s early. | |
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| Posted by: writerkev 06:50 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - Delvino 05:31 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| There’s also a very good chance that Linda and Joe from Wichita are unvaccinated and can’t see a show even if they have the money and the desire. | |
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| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 08:13 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - writerkev 06:50 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Don't make stereotypical assumptions about people from Wichita! After all, they are famous for their "one and only burlesque theater," where a certain Miss Lee got her start! I'm sure Mazeppa, Electra, and Tessie all got boosted there. | |
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| Posted by: ryhog 08:16 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - BruceinIthaca 08:13 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| "I'm sure Mazeppa, Electra, and Tessie all got boosted there." Did they get Pfizer or Moderna? |
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| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 08:19 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - ryhog 08:16 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| They all said something about how much the Johnson hurt, so they switched to Moderna, thinking it was named after one of their "sisters." | |
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| Last Edit: KingSpeed 07:32 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 07:32 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - writerkev 06:50 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Also- Linda and Joe have Disney Plus and are fine with just staying home and watching "High School Musical: The Musical: The Series." | |
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| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 08:14 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| That sounds more like something Biff would watch, halfway into the first of his two nightly six-packs. | |
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| Posted by: Chromolume 08:04 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - KingSpeed 07:32 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| There's a series???? | |
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| Yep lol | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:07 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - Chromolume 08:04 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| I hear it's good but I haven't watched it yet. | |
| Link | High School Musical: The Musical: The Series |
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| Posted by: KingSpeed 05:44 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: No - Delvino 05:31 pm EST 02/18/22 | |
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| Yes and are we sure Linda can afford $1400 for a two and a half hour show? | |
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