| re: work by any combo of "nonwhite, nonstraight, non cisgender males" is valid also | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 07:56 pm EDT 03/17/22 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 07:53 pm EDT 03/17/22 | |
| In reply to: work by any combo of "nonwhite, nonstraight, non cisgender males" is valid also - Chazwaza 04:48 pm EDT 03/17/22 | |
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| In re-reading my own post, I want to be clear when i said: "lamenting the very lamentable fact of the whiteness and largely maleness of the people behind the majority of all of Broadway musical history" i do not mean to lament their race or gender, but just that it was the vast majority. It's the majority aspect I find lamentable. Any given writer(s) being white or being male or being both is not inherently lamentable nor should it be seen that way... I mean the way "white and male" so vastly outnumbers "not white" and/or "not male" ... I don't want to be seen as reinforcing the idea i'm arguing against! Breaking down our identity as points or ammo is not good. It is, instead, lamentable that there were so few creators and producers who were female or people of non-white races. And I also want to clarify when I say "it's not as if Broadway musicals were the specific art form of white British Christians" I mean that Broadway musicals did start mainly out with Jewish immigrants and children of Jewish immigrants in New York. That's not good or bad it's just true. It doesn't mean non-Jewish people haven't contributed massively to the form and that it hasn't changed and grown and expanded etc. But I think when we discuss "white people" and "whiteness" in the context only of society today, we leave out how differently Jews and "white" immigrants were treated than WASPS and that kind of white people. (I think now people would think of Mother and Father's family in Ragtime, but they'd include Tateh and the Jewish immigrants in that as well when they say "white" as a blanket term, and it's just not accurate to the time.) We are also leaving out class structure and class discrimination etc, which is very real too. I find this to be the narrow understanding more of younger people today than all people but i hate to generalize ;) Anyway. ... |
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