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| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 02:48 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
| In reply to: A Strange Loop question - jeffef 02:41 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
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| Your post is confusing. You say that you saw the Tony performance and have heard of "naughty words" (I believe, it's spelled "buttfuck") and sex acts performed onstage (I assume without nudity--what you see is simulation of sex acts) and the show is more for a drag show or a gay bar? What in it makes it seem like a "drag show" (not the same as having a transgender performer). Do you consider "La Cage aux Folles" a drag show? (I don't--I consider it a show about drag performers--there's a difference) And does it not belong on Broadway. Plus you saw the actor playing Usher for about 5 minutes, during a period when he was still recovering from illnesses that have kept him off-stage for a number of performances in the last few weeks. You don't have to go, and it sounds like you shouldn't, but I would say you "are missing" quite a bit--including basic information. |
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| re: A Strange Loop question | |
| Posted by: NYCVoiceTeacher 12:50 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
| In reply to: re: A Strange Loop question - BruceinIthaca 02:48 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
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| This show has no comparison to LaCage or Angels in America or any other gay show. I have written in depth about why I don't feel this is a good show. First of all the individual elements. The book is all over the place. There is no focus. The score is repetitive and juvenile. There is no perspective from the main character on his plight. It's incredibly self indulgent and whiny. But the main reason it doesn't work is that the main character.. Usher... is a very confused, and troubled young man. The way it is written we are laughing AT him. He is getting F($cked which is the low point and humiliating... and the audience is laughing because of the way it is written. It did not work for me because Usher is going through a really personal, gut wrenching period in his life... and we are laughing. I certainly wasn't. I was horrified for the character. Usher deserved better. It's a mess in almost every way. |
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| completely inaccurate! (Spoilers but probably should read to correct the previous errors) | |
| Posted by: fm_15 07:53 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
| In reply to: re: A Strange Loop question - NYCVoiceTeacher 12:50 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| The scene where he gets "F($cked"is in NO WAY played for for laughs nor are you supposed to be laughing AT him. The only thing "funny" about the scene is the audacity of his partner to say those racist things to him during the act. We're supposed to be shocked by the absurd and preposterous nature of those words and yes, in this way, those words are "funny" because you would not think any sane man would say them. The humor is therefore satirical, not to be taken at face value. "no perspective from the main character on his plight"? The richness of Usher's character lies in how witty and scathing his observations about himself and his world are. Was the ending of the subway fantasy scene where he realizes it's just in his head, an example of "no perspective"? Coming to terms with the falsehood of a fantasy is precisely what it means to have perspective. And how is the book any more "all over the place" than say a show like Company that just jumps from vignette to vignette? It happens in head so naturally it jumps quite fast from concept to concept. Is The Sound and the Fury "all over the place"? Do all stories have to follow a linear progression of plot? I can't quibble with your take on the score being repetitive and juvenile because that is a true opinion but your examples of what happens in the rest of the show is just factually wrong. |
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| re: A Strange Loop question | |
| Posted by: DAW60 05:21 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
| In reply to: re: A Strange Loop question - BruceinIthaca 02:48 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
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| I’m an older, straight white guy and I really enjoyed the show. There is some language used that may bother the more prudish. There is a simulated sex scene, which is appropriate to the moment and is quite heartbreaking-it’s not done for shock value. While the character is specific, many of his issues are universal-someone trying to find his way, despite the voices in his head holding him back, struggling with your home and family vs where you want or need to go…I found it quite moving, and funny. Is it a show for the ages? Probably not-but it’s well worth seeing and certainly deserving of the Tony. | |
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| re: A Strange Loop question | |
| Posted by: PlazaBoy 09:46 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
| In reply to: re: A Strange Loop question - DAW60 05:21 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
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| I don't think one has to be a prude to not want to hear vulgar language. I am gay man, not a prude, but I don't enjoy vulgar language in the entertainment I chose to consume. It's just not my taste. In the same way that I don't enjoy tv shows/movies that are violent. |
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| re: A Strange Loop question | |
| Last Edit: Chromolume 09:38 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 09:36 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
| In reply to: re: A Strange Loop question - DAW60 05:21 pm EDT 06/16/22 | |
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| There is some language used that may bother the more prudish. Oh, there's a good deal of it lol - even including the "C-word." But I think that's also part of the show's honestly and directness, which, for me, is an incredibly positive thing. (That is to say, the language is there because it's real; it's not there in a gratuitous way.) And as you said, it's also incredibly funny and moving at the same time. |
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