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| Most tony wins including best revival | |
| Posted by: dramedy 03:39 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
| In reply to: Dear BroadwayDude, Company is back on TDF - aleck 03:18 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| Doesn’t matter. Only best musical tony and maybe best play really make a difference in boxoffice. Strange loop should really jump in boxoffice in the next few weeks. | |
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| re: Most tony wins including best revival | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 09:44 pm EDT 06/18/22 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 09:44 pm EDT 06/18/22 | |
| In reply to: Most tony wins including best revival - dramedy 03:39 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| Trying to think of examples when that’s not true. Did Dreamgirls have a post-Tonys bump despite losing Best Musical? | |
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| re: Most tony wins including best revival | |
| Posted by: writerkev 07:33 am EDT 06/19/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Most tony wins including best revival - KingSpeed 09:44 pm EDT 06/18/22 | |
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| There have been shows that attribute their success partly to the performance on the Tonys—famously “Smokey Joe’s Cafe,” for example. I remember the year “Beauty and the Beast” performed and did great business the next day, and the joke was “who knew winning best costumes could be such a big deal?” (That was the only award it won.) |
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| re: Most tony wins including best revival | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 05:20 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
| In reply to: Most tony wins including best revival - dramedy 03:39 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| " Strange loop should really jump in boxoffice in the next few weeks." I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm not sure to what extent I see that happening. I agree with you on Company and the revival awards – but while the Tony winning Best Musical usually sees an uptick, I think people seem to be aware that it won less awards than any Tony-winning musical in decades (not being able to advertise Best Score has gotta hurt – because if they tout Best Musical and Best Book it's tantamount to saying it works in spite of the songs, and no one goes to a musical for its book. Aside from all that, word of mouth on this one is all over the place, and I'm not sure the number they did would sell many tickets. MJ certainly did, and The Music Man didn't really need to... but if I were a betting man I'd go so far as to say that, based on the musical excerpts alone (and putting aside the fact it's likely to close in the coming months regardless), Paradise Square probably lit more of a fire under people's feet to go see it than "Intermission Song" did. |
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| re: Most tony wins including best revival | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 01:24 am EDT 06/19/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Most tony wins including best revival - ShowGoer 05:20 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| but while the Tony winning Best Musical usually sees an uptick, I think people seem to be aware that it won less awards than any Tony-winning musical in decades I have to imagine most people don't keep track of that and have no idea. WE do, yes, lol. But the average theatregoer or tourist? Do they even remember what won the Tony in the last few years? |
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| re: Most tony wins including best revival | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:13 pm EDT 06/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Most tony wins including best revival - ShowGoer 05:20 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| Longest running Broadway show ever didn’t win Best Score. | |
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| When I bought a ticket for SLoop | |
| Posted by: dramedy 07:19 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Most tony wins including best revival - ShowGoer 05:20 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| I bought a ticket on may 13 for end of June and the theater was half full. Monday after Tonys it is sold out. I didn’t check before Tony awards but I assume there were a lot of sales after it won. I checked both company and mj and both had lots of tickets still (mj is in a big theater). | |
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| re: Most tony wins including best revival | |
| Posted by: Delvino 06:58 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Most tony wins including best revival - ShowGoer 05:20 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| I’m not a major fan of Paradise Square (and am of Loop) but I fully agree. If only she could do “Let it Burn” on the Ed Sullivan Show. That’s not glib. | |
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| Black Audience: PARADISE SQUARE vs A STRANGE LOOP | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 03:10 am EDT 06/18/22 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 03:06 am EDT 06/18/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Most tony wins including best revival - Delvino 06:58 pm EDT 06/17/22 | |
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| I saw both Paradise Square and A Strange Loop on my May trip (5/19 through 5/26). There were way more black folk in the Barrymore cheering on the cast than there were in the Lyceum. Everyone in my row at the Barrymore was African American. I didn't see a single black male in the Lyceum theatre, just a few black ladies mostly in their 30's and 40's here and there on the main floor. Just an observation on my part for now. I haven't had enough time yet to discuss both shows with some of my black friends, other than my partner. |
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| re: Black Audience: PARADISE SQUARE vs A STRANGE LOOP | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 01:15 pm EDT 06/18/22 | |
| In reply to: Black Audience: PARADISE SQUARE vs A STRANGE LOOP - BroadwayTonyJ 03:06 am EDT 06/18/22 | |
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| Purely anecdotal: A few weeks ago, I got to the Lyceum at 8:30 a.m. to line up for rush tickets to ''A Strange Loop.'' I was first in line. By the time, the box office opened at 10 a.m., there were over 20 of us. I was the only person of color. Everyone else in the line was white. |
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| re: Black Audience: PARADISE SQUARE vs A STRANGE LOOP | |
| Posted by: Delvino 08:12 am EDT 06/18/22 | |
| In reply to: Black Audience: PARADISE SQUARE vs A STRANGE LOOP - BroadwayTonyJ 03:06 am EDT 06/18/22 | |
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| This was a topic a year ago, when many of us noted the all-white audiences at Slave Play (and this fall, at Pass Over and Trouble in Mind). When Slave Play returned, anecdotal evidence suggests a community outreach marketing effort changed the demographics in the audience significantly. As many note, Paradise Square is still heavily papering, and it's possible (and wise) that efforts to reach an audience of color are built into the strategy. Of course, it's (too) late for that show by any yardstick. It's probably early to generalize about Strange Loop, and one can assume that its midweek matinees (when I attended) -- so often TDF folks who have days free for various issues -- are not representative of its overall audience. Yet the Tony win logically places the show in must-see list for many who might not be as curious. Three months from now, we could have this discussion and find different takeaways. Since we're all noting changes in this more inclusive Broadway, the make-up of audiences is as revealing as more diverse programming. Safe to say we look forward to the day when both sides of the footlights represent a new Broadway. |
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