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| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 08:17 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| In reply to: Not Getting Married today - lordofspeech 07:57 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
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| In reference to your last point, context is everything. Mentioning historic slavery is totally fine. A white man comparing himself and his fear of getting married to a Black mother attempting to free slavery with her baby is not so fine. | |
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| re: Not Getting Married today | |
| Posted by: lordofspeech 08:28 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Not Getting Married today - Singapore/Fling 08:17 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
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| Did Sondheim censor himself in this instance or was it suggested to him because of his identifying himself as a white male. | |
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| re: Not Getting Married today | |
| Last Edit: Singapore/Fling 08:52 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 08:51 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Not Getting Married today - lordofspeech 08:28 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
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| A) We don't know why the lyric was changed. You suggested this as a reason, but we don't know. B) The reference would be awkward written by a person of any race, because it's a rather flippant, facile, and entitled comparison. |
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| Who do you think knows the answer to that? | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 08:33 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Not Getting Married today - lordofspeech 08:28 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
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| Either way, he clearly approved the change. | |
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| re: Getting Married today | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 08:28 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Not Getting Married today - Singapore/Fling 08:17 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
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| Or, it might just be that Sondheim took another look at the lyric after all these years, thought it might be weaker than it needs to be, and changed it. BTW - the name of the song is "Getting Married Today." :-) |
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| re: Getting Married today | |
| Posted by: lordofspeech 09:15 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Getting Married today - Chromolume 08:28 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
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| Eliza is a figment of Harriet Beecher Stowe’s imagination. Eliza is a mixed race female. Harriet Beecher Stowe was probably a light-skinned or white female. | |
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| re: Getting Married today | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 08:49 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Getting Married today - Chromolume 08:28 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
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| 100 %. I was purely answering the idea that "slavery" is verbotten in "Woke" theater, not supporting the idea that this was why the change was made. I could have been clearer about that. I have no idea why it was changed, or even if it was changed in the first place, since I haven't listened to the song since I saw the show many months ago. But these "lovable cranks" like to act as if Woke means you can't mention anything unpleasant, as opposed to it being more about context and respect. |
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| I assumed it was because the singer is now a male. (nm) | |
| Posted by: BigM 08:52 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Getting Married today - Singapore/Fling 08:49 pm EDT 06/23/22 | |
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