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| “Camino Real” and Paul Newman | |
| Posted by: kieran 01:20 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| Ethan Hawke said on TV tonight that Tennessee Williams wrote the lead role for Newman. Has anyone heard this before? | |
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| Ethan Hawke’s movie of “Camino Real” | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 03:58 am EDT 07/29/22 | |
| In reply to: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - kieran 01:20 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| Great thread. Wondering if anyone knows anything new about this one… looks like Juliette Binoche was set to be in it, but since this article and others like it announcing the project wwre published in January 2020 it’s easy to see why it hasn’t happened yet. (I haven’t finished viewing the documentary series yet, so maybe he mentions it later on… or maybe the HBO doc project was in some fashion a way of helping him let go of this one.) From the article: “It’s a passion project of the actor, writer, and filmmakers — one that he previously tried to make in Cuba while Fidel Castro was still in power. Instead, shooting will take place in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil this year, with the goal of wrapping production by Christmas. Hawke hopes to cast Juliette Binoche in one of the key roles and is lining up the rest of his ensemble. He will not act in the film.” |
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| Link | Ethan Hawke Directing Film of Tennessee Williams’ ‘Camino Real’ |
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| re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 05:09 pm EDT 07/28/22 | |
| In reply to: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - kieran 01:20 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| Just read your post and the ensuing discussion a couple of hours ago. I was immediately skeptical simply given where Newman was as an actor at the time that Camino Real went into rehearsal, much less when it was written and then rewritten. I went searching for more info in several places, and I think the evidence overwhelmingly suggests that Williams did not even know who Paul Newman was when he was writing the play, and that Newman was probably never even considered for the role in the original production. Maybe as understudy, but I doubt even that because I think he probably would have taken that offer over the role of Bomber in Picnic, as that was the role he was originally cast in, although it does seem that he was also the Hal understudy from the beginning. Eli Wallach was reported in the press as being likely to play the lead in Camino Real 15 months before it opened. |
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| re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman | |
| Posted by: bmc 10:02 am EDT 07/29/22 | |
| In reply to: re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - AlanScott 05:09 pm EDT 07/28/22 | |
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| He turned down the role of Maggio in FROM HERE TO ETERNITY to do CAMINO REAL , a decision for which Francis Sinatra was very grateful. | |
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| re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 06:31 am EDT 07/30/22 | |
| In reply to: re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - bmc 10:02 am EDT 07/29/22 | |
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| And I suppose quite noble and admirable of Wallach to turn a great role in a movie that was expected to be a major event in favor of a play that even the folks involved expected to be at best a succès d'estime. | |
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| re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman | |
| Posted by: larry13 10:17 am EDT 07/30/22 | |
| In reply to: re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - AlanScott 06:31 am EDT 07/30/22 | |
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| I definitely agree about Wallach being admirable. And just want to add that he may have felt very grateful to Williams for the opportunity to create the male lead in ROSE TATTOO(for which he won a Tony), likely his breakthrough role. Apparently, "From Here to Eternity" would have been his screen debut. Instead, it was "Baby Doll" also scripted by Williams and also award winning for Wallach--if not the Oscar HE might have gotten instead of Sinatra. In any event, "Baby Doll" very successfully launched Wallach's distinguished film career. | |
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| re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman | |
| Posted by: ARM25 10:26 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
| In reply to: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - kieran 01:20 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| John Guare's essay on Tennessee Williams' Camino Real in the New Directions paperback entitled: "An Introduction in Eighteen Blocks" contains much information on the play's development and production history, and is also an excellent analysis of the work. Guare's essay on Camino Real concludes with this beautiful advice: "Always keep a Camino Real in your typewriter, computer, yellow legal pad--whatever you write your plays on-- keep working on the impossible play--the play written for the freaks and the outlaws, the dreamers without a plan, the fugitives, the desperados, yourselves. Writing for them might not make you the big bucks, but they'll keep you alive." |
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| Link | Tennessee Williams' Camino Real - John Guare introduction - New Directions paperback |
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| re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman | |
| Posted by: singleticket 10:04 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
| In reply to: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - kieran 01:20 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| I’ve never heard that and I think Mr. Hawke is probably mistaken. The play had its gestation in 1945 or 1946, right after the end of WWIi. Even it’s conversion into a full length play in 1949 was probably too early for Newman, but I could be wrong. I love the play perhaps more to read than to watch. I saw a production that Juliard did and though the actors were great it never really took off. It’s Williams in full post-war surrealist mode. |
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| Last Edit: JereNYC 11:49 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 11:42 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - singleticket 10:04 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| Funny that this came up...I was in the Williamstown Theatre Festival production of CAMINO REAL in 1999 in which Ethan Hawke played Kilroy. It had a really starry cast, by the way...in addition to Ethan Hawke, there was Blair Brown, Kristine Nielsen, Jeffrey Jones, Mary Lou Rosato, Hope Davis, Lewis Black, and Richard Easton. And future stars Kathryn Hahn, Christian Carmargo, and Charlie Day, as well as Broadway regular David Turner were also in the cast. I don't have any insight into Williams writing the play for Newman, but Newman did come to see the production and I got to meet him afterward. He was very complimentary about the show. It's true what they said about his blue eyes. It was difficult to look away from them. |
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| Posted by: singleticket 12:32 pm EDT 07/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - JereNYC 11:42 am EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| The production sounds like a lot of fun to have been in. | |
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| re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 01:07 pm EDT 07/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - singleticket 12:32 pm EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| It really was a lot of fun, as well as being a great production. Apparently, Lincoln Center Theater was considering transferring it to New York, but did not due to the size of the cast. It was a whole education in itself to be in a rehearsal room with Blair Brown and able to watch her work. |
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| The one-act version of the play with Martin Sheen et al. (re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman) | |
| Last Edit: Marlo*Manners 07:12 pm EDT 07/27/22 | |
| Posted by: Marlo*Manners 07:11 pm EDT 07/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman - JereNYC 01:07 pm EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| Great cast. Marlo Manners (Lady Barrington) |
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| Link | Ten blocks on the Camino Real |
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| re: The one-act version of the play with Martin Sheen et al. (re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman) | |
| Posted by: singleticket 11:37 pm EDT 07/27/22 | |
| In reply to: The one-act version of the play with Martin Sheen et al. (re: “Camino Real” and Paul Newman) - Marlo*Manners 07:11 pm EDT 07/27/22 | |
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| Well that was fantastic, thanks. A real freak-out of a take on the play. It made me look up the career of the director Jack Landau whose career was cut short by a violent murder... two years after the making of this film. | |
| Link | Jack Landau (director) |
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