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| Posted by: Glamourboy 02:53 pm EDT 07/31/22 | |
| In reply to: The problem is… - ShowGoer 01:59 pm EDT 07/31/22 | |
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| I totally disagree with you. The commerce of any dramatic piece is conflict and Funny Girl has a continual amount of conflict for the Fanny character. In the very opening scene she is not chosen for a part based on her looks. She is able to get herself hired but then she screws it up...which leads to her being noticed...so she keeps her job. With a raise. Her mother's friends sing an entire song about how she's never going to make it. She marries Nicky Arnstein but their marriage quickly turns sour. He becomes an absent husband and ultimately gets arrested and goes to jail. It is ALL adversity for her. and yes, he does pick herself up, constantly. | |
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| re: The problem is… | |
| Last Edit: Roman 03:40 pm EDT 07/31/22 | |
| Posted by: Roman 03:35 pm EDT 07/31/22 | |
| In reply to: re: The problem is… - Glamourboy 02:53 pm EDT 07/31/22 | |
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| I don’t know that your examples (not getting the part, initially; “If a Girl Isn’t Pretty”, ) support a counterpoint to ShowGoer’s observations. In fact, I think they support ShowGoer’s position. She actually DOES get the part. Because, as ShowGoer states, she believes in herself. “If A Girl Isn’t Pretty” are the beliefs of others. Not Fanny. The song and others’ lack-of-faith never impede her determination. She’s confused they don’t see what she does (“it must be a plot! ‘Cause they’re scared that I’ve got such a gift!”). She hears the song and Keeny’s words. She knows what’s she looks like (“you think beautiful girls are gonna stick around forever? I should say Not! Any minute they’ll be out! Finished! Then it will be my turn!”; “I’m a bagel on a plate full of onion rolls! No one recognizes me!”) This is why she doesn’t want to sing in the Ziegfeld finale. She doesn’t want to be laughed at for her looks. It’s a moment we see such delicate vulnerability in someone we’ve come to know as very confident. And then to have someone so attractive take and interest in her…? She knows she’s the greatest star. What she is less familiar with is someone seeing beyond her looks to the woman she is. Marriages fail. But this is the only real knockdown she gets. (“It’s all happening so fast! Where the suffering you have to do before ya click?!” Eddie and Mrs. Brice say something like “Cheer up! Maybe you’ll suffer later!”). And she does stand at the end as says she’ll cry a little later as she rallies herself with the Parade reprise. |
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| re: The problem is… | |
| Posted by: Roman 03:54 pm EDT 07/31/22 | |
| In reply to: re: The problem is… - Roman 03:35 pm EDT 07/31/22 | |
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| In addition, in that moment where she says it’s happening so fast, she also asks “where’s the hard knocks?” I mean, even FANNY would disagree with you. |
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