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Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies?
Posted by: wizrdofoz27 05:40 pm EDT 07/31/22

I saw an article claiming as much, which quite shocks me. But then again I'm not sure Passion has been done by any of the regional theaters in San Francisco. Or Anyone Can Whistle for that matter.
Link https://www.ebar.com/story.php?ch=bartab&sc=live_music&id=317560
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re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows
Last Edit: dlh 10:14 pm EDT 08/01/22
Posted by: dlh 10:10 pm EDT 08/01/22
In reply to: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies? - wizrdofoz27 05:40 pm EDT 07/31/22

wizrdofoz27:
But then again I'm not sure Passion has been done by any of the regional theaters in San Francisco. Or Anyone Can Whistle for that matter.

You mean within the *city* of San Francisco (which is IMO really tiny by big city standards) and not the San Francisco Bay Area?

For the record, Passion was produced at the Tides Theatre in San Francisco by Custom Made Theatre Company in 2019.

And reaching back, the world premiere of the video recording of the original Broadway production had it's premiere at San Francisco's Kabuki Theatre as part of the San Francisco International Film Festival in 1996. Not quite what you meant, but notable nonetheless.

... but I have no idea about Anyone Can Whistle!
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re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows
Posted by: AlanScott 05:54 am EDT 08/02/22
In reply to: re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows - dlh 10:10 pm EDT 08/01/22

ACT did Sunday in the Park With George around a year after the original Broadway production closed. I think it might have been the first professional production after Broadway. The national tours of West Side Story, Gypsy, Company, Night Music, Pacific Overtures, Sweeney Todd and Into the Woods all played in San Francisco, although the national tour of Forum did not, perhaps because Edwin Lester thought it too dirty for the Civic Light Opera and they somehow never booked it anywhere else. ACT did Forum in 1989. I wonder if that might have been the first full-scale professional production of the show to play in San Francisco proper.
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So the national tour of 'Follies' didn't play San Francisco?
Last Edit: WaymanWong 01:00 am EDT 08/03/22
Posted by: WaymanWong 12:56 am EDT 08/03/22
In reply to: re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows - AlanScott 05:54 am EDT 08/02/22

The ''Follies'' from Broadway (with Dorothy Collins, Alexis Smith, Gene Nelson, John McMartin) played in 1972 at the Shubert Theatre in L.A.

According to Ovrtur.com (below), it was hoped that ''Follies'' would play other cities, too, but it didn't draw well and closed after its L.A. run.

(I'm so used to major touring productions playing L.A. AND S.F. ... Even ''Pacific Overtures'' (1976) did both cities on its West Coast tour.
Link Ovrtur.com: 'Follies' (1972)
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re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows
Posted by: showtunetrivia 01:40 am EDT 08/02/22
In reply to: re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows - dlh 10:10 pm EDT 08/01/22

It’s not quite the Bay Area, but TheatreWorks in Palo Alto did PASSION in 1996; I wanted to drive north for it, as I hadn’t seen it staged, just the recorded OBC.

But something came up, so I had to wait for the LA premiere—a special one-night only show from Reprise! in 1999, and the first full production at the East West Players in 2003.

Laura in LA, whose kids (13, 12 and 10) came to that show in 1999, and got some funny looks from people who didn’t understand that we started Sondheim early in this family
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there was a beautiful PASSION in Los Angeles that closed after only 1 week due to Covid v1
Posted by: Chazwaza 06:25 pm EDT 08/02/22
In reply to: re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows - showtunetrivia 01:40 am EDT 08/02/22

I wish you could have seen it. Other than a few ill fitting soldier costumes, it was really really good. And the Fosca (Meghan Andrews) was extraordinary. It was at the Boston Court theater, a beautiful space.
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re: there was a beautiful PASSION in Los Angeles that closed after only 1 week due to Covid v1
Posted by: showtunetrivia 08:49 pm EDT 08/02/22
In reply to: there was a beautiful PASSION in Los Angeles that closed after only 1 week due to Covid v1 - Chazwaza 06:25 pm EDT 08/02/22

I wanted to see that. Everything I’ve ever seen at Boston Court has been great, especially STUPID FUCKING BIRD and R2.

Laura in LA
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re: there was a beautiful PASSION in Los Angeles that closed after only 1 week due to Covid v1
Posted by: Chazwaza 09:04 pm EDT 08/02/22
In reply to: re: there was a beautiful PASSION in Los Angeles that closed after only 1 week due to Covid v1 - showtunetrivia 08:49 pm EDT 08/02/22

It's the only thing I've seen there since I first went once or twice like 10 years ago. Not sure why I fell off with them, but I'm excited to see more.
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re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows
Posted by: keikekaze 03:04 pm EDT 08/02/22
In reply to: re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows - showtunetrivia 01:40 am EDT 08/02/22

Oh, I think Palo Alto qualifies as "the Bay Area." It's in San Mateo County, the next one immediately south from San Francisco. The nine counties that actually touch San Francisco Bay, including San Mateo, are what metropolitan statisticians in any field usually mean by "the Bay Area."
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re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows
Posted by: showtunetrivia 07:41 pm EDT 08/02/22
In reply to: re: San Francisco premieres of Sondheim shows - keikekaze 03:04 pm EDT 08/02/22

I was born in San Francisco, so I normally would include Palo Alto in my definition. But I wasn’t sure if the OP wanted to restrict parameters in any way.

Laura in LA
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re: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies?
Posted by: 37Rubydog 02:04 pm EDT 08/01/22
In reply to: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies? - wizrdofoz27 05:40 pm EDT 07/31/22

San Jose Music Theater (or SJLO) - alas defunct - did a production of Follies in the early 70s.
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re: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies?
Last Edit: AlanScott 08:29 pm EDT 07/31/22
Posted by: AlanScott 08:28 pm EDT 07/31/22
In reply to: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies? - wizrdofoz27 05:40 pm EDT 07/31/22

There have been (at least) two fully staged productions in San José, an hour's drive (according to what I find online), at the San José Civic Light Opera and its successor, the American Musical Theatre of San José, but it seems that it may well be correct that Follies has never been produced in a full production in San Francisco.
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re: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies?
Posted by: Unhookthestars 06:06 pm EDT 07/31/22
In reply to: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies? - wizrdofoz27 05:40 pm EDT 07/31/22

According to Playbill, “Originally slated for the Playhouse’s 2019-2020 season but postponed due to the pandemic, the production marks Follies' first fully staged professional production in San Francisco.”
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re: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies?
Posted by: rossde 12:23 am EDT 08/01/22
In reply to: re: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies? - Unhookthestars 06:06 pm EDT 07/31/22

It may be the “professional” premiere - but we did it at Lowell High school in San Francisco in the fall of 1974 with a cast of, I think, 50.

Mirror Mirror blew the roof off the house.

Did we understand the show at the tender ages of 16 and 17? Well, we thought we did.
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re: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies?
Posted by: Chromolume 01:29 am EDT 08/01/22
In reply to: re: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies? - rossde 12:23 am EDT 08/01/22

Did we understand the show at the tender ages of 16 and 17? Well, we thought we did.

Sure, why not, lol. The musical only demands that the main characters remember (and are literally haunted by) themselves at the ages of, um...negative 14 and negative 13? :-)

(I would say something similar about the very slickly produced but clueless production I saw at a local conservatory some years back. It was fun to see, but...)

But hey, god bless you all for feeling like you could take it on. When I was that age, I wouldn't have been wanted to be told I couldn't, even if that was right. :-)
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Reverse "Merrily"
Posted by: chrismpls 02:49 pm EDT 08/01/22
In reply to: re: Is the SF Playhouse production really the San Francisco premiere of Follies? - Chromolume 01:29 am EDT 08/01/22

A high school in my area recently did "Follies," too, and I was bummed to miss it. I'm skeptical but curious. Parenthetically, I've always wondered how "Merrily We Roll Along" would work cast the opposite way of the original. I've seen it with sort of down-the-middle casting but it seems like older actors performing the early (late) scenes of youth and promise-that-we-know-will-sour would be especially poignant.
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re: Reverse "Merrily"
Posted by: NewtonUK 06:28 pm EDT 08/01/22
In reply to: Reverse "Merrily" - chrismpls 02:49 pm EDT 08/01/22

What you suggest is what the concept of the original Kaufman and Hart play was in 1935. With a cast of 91! The majority of principals were mid 30s to mid 40s ....
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