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| BEAUTIFUL NOISE - BOSTON problems await NYC | |
| Posted by: jugenjury 02:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| Saw the show last Saturday night in Boston. Bought tickets the day of its original sale. Will Swenson was in top form and nailed Neil Diamond. However, I believe this show needs a book doctor, as this is not in its current form Best Musical material. Also surprised at the large number of empty orchestra seats for a Saturday night. At least 20 percent of the orchestra was empty- the mid to rear side orchestras were basically empty, some of the rear center orchestra, and many prime center orchestra seats were also empty. |
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| Maybe people are scared of sitting through a 2-hour audience sing-along | |
| Posted by: dczoo 01:01 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: BEAUTIFUL NOISE - BOSTON problems await NYC - jugenjury 02:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| I'd love to see Swenson, but this will keep me away. And speaking of Beautiful, I don't remember my fellow theatergoers insisting on joining in, although it's likely everyone knew every song in the show. Has audience behavior changed THAT much in less than 10 years? | |
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| re: Maybe people are scared of sitting through a 2-hour audience sing-along | |
| Posted by: Ann 02:16 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: Maybe people are scared of sitting through a 2-hour audience sing-along - dczoo 01:01 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| I agree with you on this new show and Beautiful. But when I saw Jersey Boys - I think it's a little time before they sing a familiar song, and the audience was silent until that song started. I think some thought they had wandered into the wrong show. Then they started joining right in. | |
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| I never see Handel’s messiah for that reason | |
| Posted by: dramedy 02:30 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Maybe people are scared of sitting through a 2-hour audience sing-along - Ann 02:16 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| The best part is the hallelujah and they usually make the audience sing along. I’m here to hear the professional choir—not offkey audience. | |
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| re: I never see Handel’s messiah for that reason | |
| Posted by: Ann 02:32 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: I never see Handel’s messiah for that reason - dramedy 02:30 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| You can yell "Hallelujah!" | |
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| It doesn’t surprise me | |
| Posted by: dramedy 05:18 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: BEAUTIFUL NOISE - BOSTON problems await NYC - jugenjury 02:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| Very few biops are compelling. Jersey boys was able to build a lot of tension between the members which creates good drama. Temptations tried to do it also but I didn’t think it worked that well. Most other biops are just boring and present the beloved songs and the success of the show is really based on how large the fan base is. MJ is doing well probably because of the fan base and not the book. I’ve never understood why beautiful did so well over other similar biops. I don’t think carol king has the fan base of Tina turner or cher and yet beautiful ran for years. I |
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| re: But the core of Carole King's fan base . . . | |
| Posted by: keikekaze 06:24 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: It doesn’t surprise me - dramedy 05:18 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| . . . is pretty much identical to the core of the Broadway fan base: White women over 40. | |
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| re: But the core of Carole King's fan base . . . | |
| Posted by: SCH 09:51 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: But the core of Carole King's fan base . . . - keikekaze 06:24 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| And, if you weren't around in the 70s, you may not know what a cultural phenomenon the album Tapestry was. (I know I practically wore out my copy of it from playing it so many times.) It remains one of the top-selling albums of all time, and apparently held the record for best-selling album by a female artist for decades, until Adele came along. "Carole King's Tapestry is a triumph of mass culture. In less than two years it has sold well over five million copies, putting it in a class with the best-selling albums of all time, and it is still on the charts … Such statistics are so overwhelming that they seem to transform a mere record into some sort of ineluctable cultural presence, and in a sense they do." — Robert Christgau (Newsday, November 1972) |
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| That could be | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 06:34 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 06:32 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: But the core of Carole King's fan base . . . - keikekaze 06:24 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| But I think I underestimate her fan base because of my age. To me, carol king is a 70s icon which is before my interest in pop music In the 80s. Yes, I’m familiar with 60s and 70s hit songs, but I don’t think many of kings songs fall in that category so I didn’t really know many of the songs in the musical. But there is a large theater going audience that is older than I that probably grew up with kings songs. And my problem with cher musical is that it really emphasized her early years and glossed over her hits in the post 90s at the very end which is what I’m more familiar with |
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| Posted by: keikekaze 09:42 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: That could be - dramedy 06:32 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| Well, I don't know what your age is, dramedy, but as someone who can remember the Fifties (barely!) and the Sixties (clearly), I can promise you that Carole King was enormously popular in the Seventies as a singer-songwriter ("It''s Too Late," "You've Got A Friend,""I Feel the Earth Move," etc.), and even before that, in the late Fifties and Sixties, as a writer of dozens of pop hits for other artists ("Up On the Roof," "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?", "Natural Woman," etc.). All those songs were hu-u-u-uge, back in the day. I think it also helped Beautiful's long Broadway run that Carole King is New York, like the Jersey Boys (well, close enough!), another show that did exceptionally well for a jukeboxer. |
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| re: That could be | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 10:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: That could be - keikekaze 09:42 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| The show also told a powerful generational story: in tracing King's path to liberation, it mirrored the larger feminist movements of the 60s and 70s. I thought the show was just okay, but my mom felt like her story was being told, and she was tremendously moved by it. | |
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| Posted by: Thom915 03:19 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: That could be - Singapore/Fling 10:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| I agree. I saw it with my sister and my niece and they enjoyed it tremendously. My brother-in-law and I liked it though not as much as they did. I think you have explained the reason very well. | |
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| ...and "Beautiful" is actually good | |
| Posted by: chrismpls 11:26 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: That could be - Singapore/Fling 10:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| I have no particular affection for King, whose music is all before my time, but "Beautiful" is a good piece of theater. I have seen a lot of the other jukebox shows -- "Jersey Boys," "Temptations," "Motown," etc. -- and I don't think that's true of any of the others. | |
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| re: BEAUTIFUL NOISE - BOSTON problems await NYC | |
| Posted by: larry13 04:07 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: BEAUTIFUL NOISE - BOSTON problems await NYC - jugenjury 02:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| I don't know what the mask/vaccination policy is right now in Boston but could this be another instance of a show, at least in Boston, whose target audience is being very careful about returning to the theater? | |
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| re: BEAUTIFUL NOISE - BOSTON problems await NYC | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 04:34 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: BEAUTIFUL NOISE - BOSTON problems await NYC - larry13 04:07 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| Mask/vaccination policy is yes. (Masks are mandated and vax cards are checked.) | |
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| And mass vac rate is 81% | |
| Posted by: dramedy 05:13 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: BEAUTIFUL NOISE - BOSTON problems await NYC - Chromolume 04:34 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| So probably not an issue for most people in attending if they want. | |
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| re: And mass vac rate is 81% | |
| Posted by: ryhog 06:46 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: And mass vac rate is 81% - dramedy 05:13 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| and yet, for a good number in a certain demographic, it clearly is. vax not equal to insulation from infection vaxxed people are at very low risk of serious consequences from infection we have plenty of irrational people at both ends of the polarity, not to mention in between. |
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| Good point | |
| Posted by: dramedy 07:09 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And mass vac rate is 81% - ryhog 06:46 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| Being fully vac doesn’t mean immune from catching covid. | |
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