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| re: But the core of Carole King's fan base . . . | |
| Posted by: keikekaze 06:24 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: It doesn’t surprise me - dramedy 05:18 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| . . . is pretty much identical to the core of the Broadway fan base: White women over 40. | |
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| re: But the core of Carole King's fan base . . . | |
| Posted by: SCH 09:51 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: But the core of Carole King's fan base . . . - keikekaze 06:24 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| And, if you weren't around in the 70s, you may not know what a cultural phenomenon the album Tapestry was. (I know I practically wore out my copy of it from playing it so many times.) It remains one of the top-selling albums of all time, and apparently held the record for best-selling album by a female artist for decades, until Adele came along. "Carole King's Tapestry is a triumph of mass culture. In less than two years it has sold well over five million copies, putting it in a class with the best-selling albums of all time, and it is still on the charts … Such statistics are so overwhelming that they seem to transform a mere record into some sort of ineluctable cultural presence, and in a sense they do." — Robert Christgau (Newsday, November 1972) |
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| Last Edit: dramedy 06:34 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 06:32 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: But the core of Carole King's fan base . . . - keikekaze 06:24 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| But I think I underestimate her fan base because of my age. To me, carol king is a 70s icon which is before my interest in pop music In the 80s. Yes, I’m familiar with 60s and 70s hit songs, but I don’t think many of kings songs fall in that category so I didn’t really know many of the songs in the musical. But there is a large theater going audience that is older than I that probably grew up with kings songs. And my problem with cher musical is that it really emphasized her early years and glossed over her hits in the post 90s at the very end which is what I’m more familiar with |
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| Posted by: keikekaze 09:42 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: That could be - dramedy 06:32 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| Well, I don't know what your age is, dramedy, but as someone who can remember the Fifties (barely!) and the Sixties (clearly), I can promise you that Carole King was enormously popular in the Seventies as a singer-songwriter ("It''s Too Late," "You've Got A Friend,""I Feel the Earth Move," etc.), and even before that, in the late Fifties and Sixties, as a writer of dozens of pop hits for other artists ("Up On the Roof," "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?", "Natural Woman," etc.). All those songs were hu-u-u-uge, back in the day. I think it also helped Beautiful's long Broadway run that Carole King is New York, like the Jersey Boys (well, close enough!), another show that did exceptionally well for a jukeboxer. |
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| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 10:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: That could be - keikekaze 09:42 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| The show also told a powerful generational story: in tracing King's path to liberation, it mirrored the larger feminist movements of the 60s and 70s. I thought the show was just okay, but my mom felt like her story was being told, and she was tremendously moved by it. | |
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| Posted by: Thom915 03:19 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: That could be - Singapore/Fling 10:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| I agree. I saw it with my sister and my niece and they enjoyed it tremendously. My brother-in-law and I liked it though not as much as they did. I think you have explained the reason very well. | |
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| ...and "Beautiful" is actually good | |
| Posted by: chrismpls 11:26 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: That could be - Singapore/Fling 10:16 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| I have no particular affection for King, whose music is all before my time, but "Beautiful" is a good piece of theater. I have seen a lot of the other jukebox shows -- "Jersey Boys," "Temptations," "Motown," etc. -- and I don't think that's true of any of the others. | |
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