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| And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: Genealley 12:24 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: Nice to see that the snark isn't just aimed at Beanie..... - Genealley 11:58 pm EDT 08/03/22 | |
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| How did they ever think James Monroe Inglehart would be a good fit for Nathan Detroit? Nathan is always cast as a bit schlubby, isn't he? Inglehart's much more of a Nicely Nicely Johnson. |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 09:20 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: And speaking of bad casting... - Genealley 12:24 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Inglehart is a terrific performer. I'm hoping he will play Nathan as written,m which is Jewish. “Alright already, I’m just a nogoodnik. Alright already, it’s true, so nu? So sue me, sue me, What can you do me? I love you.” I don't think any of us would have a problem with that. |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 06:15 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: And speaking of bad casting... - Genealley 12:24 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| I thought the same thing but it's good to have an unexpected choice in casting sometimes. Nathan Lane wasn't a typical Nathan Detroit when he was cast in the role. Lane's no Sinatra. But then he became the type everyone wanted to cast. And who would've thought of Walter Bobbie for Nicely Nicely? When I watched them on the Tonys, my eye wandered to Sabella, wondering why he wasn't playing the role. Anyway, it can be very effective to play against type. We'll see. I didn't like him all that much in Aladdin but he won a Tony! | |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Last Edit: andPeggy 10:22 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| Posted by: andPeggy 10:17 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - KingSpeed 06:15 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| I think Sinatra is the odd casting for the role of Nathan. Lane, born Joseph Lane, chose Nathan after his affinity for Nathan Detroit. (Not that an actor's affinity for a role means they're right for it, but in this case I think he is). I do wonder if Jessie Mueller will be among the funniest of Adelaides. Has she been asked to be that comic in the past? |
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| Mueller as Julie Jordan? | |
| Posted by: aleck 09:48 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - andPeggy 10:17 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Bad casting. | |
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| re: Mueller in Into the Woods | |
| Posted by: Unhookthestars 11:09 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: Mueller as Julie Jordan? - aleck 09:48 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| I would love to see her take a crack as The Baker’s Wife in ITW after Sara Bareilles leaves. I think Mueller has the earthiness and “everywoman” vibe that’s needed for the role. | |
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| Possibly | |
| Last Edit: Genealley 11:22 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| Posted by: Genealley 11:20 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Mueller in Into the Woods - Unhookthestars 11:09 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| 👍👍👍👍. I’d like to see her do it. I wasn’t taken with Bareilles’ Wife. | |
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| Agreed. But Carrie Pipperidge? | |
| Posted by: Genealley 10:42 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: Mueller as Julie Jordan? - aleck 09:48 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Perfect! | |
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| re: Agreed. But Carrie Pipperidge? | |
| Posted by: Quicheo 11:58 am EDT 08/05/22 | |
| In reply to: Agreed. But Carrie Pipperidge? - Genealley 10:42 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| I assume you've seen this. | |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: FrenchDip 10:19 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - andPeggy 10:17 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Mueller was very funny in The Mystery of Edwin Drood. And she's played Adelaide at least once before - in 2011 at the Marriott Theatre outside Chicago. | |
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| Mueller is a Funny Girl | |
| Posted by: Genealley 03:19 pm EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - FrenchDip 10:19 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Too bad they didn’t cast her. Better than an Adelaide. |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Last Edit: Delvino 08:17 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| Posted by: Delvino 08:15 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - KingSpeed 06:15 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| I believe it's unfair to pigeonhole this triple threat. I saw Iglehart play Lafayette/Jefferson in Hamilton last October, and he was remarkable. | |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: writerkev 09:01 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - Delvino 08:15 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| You thought so? I found his rendering of the lyrics impenetrable. If I hadn’t seen the show before and known the score, I wouldn’t have understood much of what he did at all. On that most basic of tests, I thought he failed pretty hard. | |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: roleplay 07:52 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - KingSpeed 06:15 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Agree about Inglehart being chosen for Nathan. I thought immediately that he was a better choice for Nicely Nicely. I thought Nathan Lane was a perfect choice for the role of Nathan. Nathan Lane being compared to Sinatra is a bit misguided, I think, seeing as Sinatra was originally thought of for the Sky role and was miscast as Nathan in the film, IMHO. Also, let's not forget that it was Sam Levine that was the original Nathan and he had that "schlubby" New York Runyonesque persona that I think Nathan Lane delivered in the revival. | |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: lordofspeech 11:49 am EDT 08/05/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - roleplay 07:52 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Laurence Olivier is on record somewhere declaring that Sam Levene’s work as Nathan Detroit was a phenomenal lesson in acting. I cd see Phil Silvers doing great, too. I never saw Nathan Lane, and I’m sure he was adorable, but there’s something about Nathan Detroit that is so in touch with the ordinary, so wheeler-dealer, such a realist. He shouldn’t be polished. |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 10:21 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - roleplay 07:52 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| I agree that Sinatra should have played Sky in the Guys and Dolls film. Someone like Phil Silvers would have been better casting as Nathan in the film. | |
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| Posted by: dreambaby 11:45 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - BroadwayTonyJ 10:21 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Would love to have seen Phil Silvers as Nathan Detroit - that would have been great casting. His would have been a perfect match with Adelaide. | |
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| Posted by: TheOtherOne 06:53 am EDT 08/05/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - dreambaby 11:45 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Silvers would have been perfect. I don't like the film version of Guys and Dolls at all, it's lifeless and the solid individual elements it contains never come together. I love Sinatra, but once his Oscar establlshed that he was "back,' he was usually more about the business of being Sinatra than anything else. I'm glad he walked off the set of Carousel a year later. |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: dbdbdb 10:41 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - BroadwayTonyJ 10:21 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| I've read that Loesser hated the casting of SInatro so much that he went to his grave not seeing the film. | |
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| Posted by: bmc 03:29 am EDT 08/05/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - dbdbdb 10:41 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| sinatra didn't take kindly to Loesser's 'coaching' him on how to sing a particular musical phrase; that was at the start of the film and they didn't speak after that. | |
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| re: And speaking of bad casting... | |
| Posted by: bsturtle 12:56 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: And speaking of bad casting... - Genealley 12:24 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Igleheart is perfectly capable of a leading role. He is charming and funny, can sing, can dance, and captivates the audience. There's absolutely no reason he can't play Nathan. I'd rather see him do that then get another Nicely from someone who could do it in their sleep. | |
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| Last Edit: KingSpeed 06:18 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 06:17 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - bsturtle 12:56 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Yes, he's funny, charming, can sing, dance, is captivating, I believe that is all true. But how does that qualify him to play Detroit? Lots of people have those qualities and are wrong for the role. | |
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| Posted by: bsturtle 12:56 pm EDT 08/05/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - KingSpeed 06:17 am EDT 08/04/22 | |
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| Just because YOU don't think he's qualified, doesn't mean he isn't. While you're sitting on this board whining about a performance you haven't even seen, he's getting ready to star in the show. *shrug* | |
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| Last Edit: KingSpeed 01:35 am EDT 08/06/22 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 01:32 am EDT 08/06/22 | |
| In reply to: re: And speaking of bad casting... - bsturtle 12:56 pm EDT 08/05/22 | |
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| I didn’t say he wasn’t qualified. I asked a question. I also posted this earlier if you scroll up. It was in response to SOMEONE ELSE saying Iglehart was wrong for the part: “I thought the same thing but it's good to have an unexpected choice in casting sometimes. Nathan Lane wasn't a typical Nathan Detroit when he was cast in the role. Lane's no Sinatra. But then he became the type everyone wanted to cast. And who would've thought of Walter Bobbie for Nicely Nicely? When I watched them on the Tonys, my eye wandered to Sabella, wondering why he wasn't playing the role. Anyway, it can be very effective to play against type. We'll see. I didn't like him all that much in Aladdin but he won a Tony!” So who is whining about a performance he hasn’t seen? And I love how you implied that my opinion doesn’t matter but yours somehow does. Explain. |
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