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re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford
Posted by: pecansforall 03:23 pm EDT 08/23/22
In reply to: re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford - Ann 03:06 pm EDT 08/23/22

I just can't picture Josh Groban as Sweeney.
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re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford
Posted by: lordofspeech 05:36 pm EDT 08/23/22
In reply to: re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford - pecansforall 03:23 pm EDT 08/23/22

A very vulnerable, very sad Sweeney rather than a sociopath…
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re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford
Posted by: Chromolume 08:26 pm EDT 08/23/22
In reply to: re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford - lordofspeech 05:36 pm EDT 08/23/22

There's really nothing in the text of Sweeney that makes him a sociopath until he snaps after missing his chance to kill the Judge. So that will be the challenge for Groban - does he really change at "Epiphany?"

I think too many of us grew up with the tour video of the original production, with George Hearn being "booby hatched" from the first moments of the play. Not the way it should go, IMO.
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re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford
Last Edit: Chazwaza 09:28 pm EDT 08/23/22
Posted by: Chazwaza 09:15 pm EDT 08/23/22
In reply to: re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford - Chromolume 08:26 pm EDT 08/23/22

Yeah, and to dismiss him, or have a production/performance guide you to dismissing him as an actual sociopath or an unhinged maniac kind of defeats some of the point of the story. If he's just insane then he isn't relatable, and nothing that drives him to this place of violence can really be blamed. Of course making the choice for his revenge is one thing, but we are meant to consider the circumstances.
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re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford
Posted by: Ncassidine 04:04 pm EDT 08/23/22
In reply to: re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford - pecansforall 03:23 pm EDT 08/23/22

It's certainly strange casting.
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Cariou's Sweeney was wistful...
Posted by: peter3053 04:43 am EDT 08/24/22
In reply to: re: Boroff: Sweeney: Groban+Ashford - Ncassidine 04:04 pm EDT 08/23/22

...by turns; he was very affecting in "The Barber and His Wife", and even when he caressed his "Friends" the razors. Elsewhere he was resentful, then ready to pounce, then wounded, then enraged (and genuinely scary)...

It was the most nuanced performance I ever saw in a musical and must have been exhausting.

But one shouldn't criticise Hearn on the video performance - he had been playing it for about two years and it looks as if his emotional references may have passed their used-by date in some areas. A fine and sensitive performer.
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re: Cariou's Sweeney was wistful...
Posted by: Chazwaza 03:18 pm EDT 08/24/22
In reply to: Cariou's Sweeney was wistful... - peter3053 04:43 am EDT 08/24/22

While it's not fair to blame Hearn entirely, and the context of the performance matters... it is not going to be considered by almost anyone. This is why these shows should be revisited and guided by the director when they are going to be filmed. This is THE record of the original Sweeney... it's a shame we have a coked-up Johanna "Green Finch" and an "arriving over-done" Sweeney... I was still mesmerized and in love, but there are more nuanced and stronger/deeper performances of Sweeney (the role) to be had and I wish that had been preserved on video for posterity. As wonderful as replacement performers often are... I'm always quite bummed when a show is finally taped for release to the world and it is not with that original cast who made the show, or it has been so long that their performances have loosened or lost things. I'm think of Sweeney, Piazza, and several others I'm sure. I wonder if Hal went to visit the Sweeney tour for a few performances before it was filmed and held a rehearsal or anything to brush them up to how he actually wants it. Maybe he did. Maybe Hearn, too, just isn't quite as good as Cariou. Who knows.
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re: Cariou's Sweeney was wistful...
Posted by: Chromolume 12:36 pm EDT 08/24/22
In reply to: Cariou's Sweeney was wistful... - peter3053 04:43 am EDT 08/24/22

A fine and sensitive performer

...who got roasted in Forbidden Broadway with "I Ham What I Ham." Yup...
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