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re: I think there is a conundrum... the one I laid out. ;)
Last Edit: Singapore/Fling 05:50 pm EDT 08/25/22
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 05:49 pm EDT 08/25/22
In reply to: I think there is a conundrum... the one I laid out. ;) - Chazwaza 04:14 am EDT 08/25/22

You may experience a conundrum, but that doesn’t mean there is one for others ;-)

When I finally saw “Merrily”, after 20 years of listening to the OBC, my biggest surprise was how perfectly that moment fits Beth.

That being said, if I’ve read your other posts correctly, I think we both agree that the show is inherently problematic, so we’re ultimately arguing over how to best fix something that’s not fixable.

The one thing I’ll add is that my objection to that song in Frank’s mouth isn’t because he’s a man, nor is my support of Beth because she’s a woman; it’s because she’s the only decent person we’ve met in the show up to that point.

One of the core problems of “Merrily” is that the main characters are awful people, and we meet them at their low points. Sure, Frank is entitled, but Mary and Charlie are downright reprehensible in how they treat them, and all three are practically saints compared to Gussy, who dramatically (and inexplicably) risks blinding another women by throwing iodine in her face. Of all of them, I think I have the most sympathy for Frank, especially in a version of the show where he listens to his neglected ex spill out her heart.

I think you make a strong case for the subtext that an actor can bring to Frank, but the action you want to play is happening outside of the words that Sondheim wrote.
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