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re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers)
Last Edit: singleticket 03:19 pm EDT 08/27/22
Posted by: singleticket 03:15 pm EDT 08/27/22
In reply to: re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers) - MockingbirdGirl 02:12 pm EDT 08/27/22

The Telegraph crowed about the production "sticking it to woke warriors" but did not seem to like the acting or singing ("a must-support rather than a must-see").

Like their fellow travelers here they have no clue how to help, only how to step on things like giant babydolls. Does any potential investor for this challenged show really want to hear that the show's best come-hither is that it scratches an anti-woke itch?
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re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers)
Posted by: HadriansMall 04:55 pm EDT 08/27/22
In reply to: re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers) - singleticket 03:15 pm EDT 08/27/22

There’s nothing anti-woke (using their phrase - I detest « woke » as a pejorative) in the production. Perhaps they are just talking about Gilliam himself (who was in the audience today which I felt was strange since the show already opened. Perhaps the transfer is nigh)
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re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers)
Posted by: Chromolume 09:22 pm EDT 08/27/22
In reply to: re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers) - HadriansMall 04:55 pm EDT 08/27/22

I detest « woke » as a pejorative

The word "woke" is properly the past tense of "wake" - as in "I woke up from my short nap and felt as tired as I was before." Otherwise, I do not recognize any other use of the word. I didn't like it when it was being used in a positive socio-political sense, and I don't like it now that it's become a travesty of itself.

Onward...
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re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers)
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 11:28 pm EDT 08/27/22
In reply to: re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers) - Chromolume 09:22 pm EDT 08/27/22

Or as in “I woke up from my obliviousness to systemic oppression and the colonial mindset, and I’m even more tired than before”.
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re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers)
Posted by: Chazwaza 07:31 pm EDT 09/02/22
In reply to: re: Terry Gilliam’s INTO THE WOODS (spoilers) - Singapore/Fling 11:28 pm EDT 08/27/22

I think a lot people react to the exhaustion of the implication that until 0-5 years ago no white people in America had any notion or understanding of this, which is wildly inaccurate and short-sighted. I'm not here to have a whole debate on the term or the extent of the good or bad the term and the way the "woke" movement moves or voices itself etc, there's an e enormous amount of work and progress still to do... but it's the implication that no one knew there was any systemic oppression, or that all or most white people are automatically in an active colonial mindset until woken up by social media posts that many who are progressive but cringe at "woke" are reacting to.
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