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| Posted by: ryhog 11:01 am EDT 09/03/22 | |
| In reply to: Paradise Square OCR? - tocop 09:27 am EDT 09/03/22 | |
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| No. Last I heard it was being held up by some combination of unpaid performer compensation (likely resolvable by the bonds) and outstanding fees for post-production services (e.g., mixing). | |
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| re: Paradise Square OCR? | |
| Posted by: TheHarveyBoy 11:22 am EDT 09/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Paradise Square OCR? - ryhog 11:01 am EDT 09/03/22 | |
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| It seems to me the bonds have already been used for outstanding dues, pension and welfare payments. | |
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| re: Paradise Square OCR? | |
| Posted by: ryhog 12:30 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Paradise Square OCR? - TheHarveyBoy 11:22 am EDT 09/03/22 | |
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| My recollection, which could be wrong, is that someone had paid at least some of the outstanding items. (Also, more is involved in invading a bond than simply writing a check.) In any case, if the recording related expenses have not been paid, that could/would hold up the release even if the work has been done. What a mess. |
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| Indeed. And… | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 02:02 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Paradise Square OCR? - ryhog 12:30 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
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| … that’s assuming that there are no existing issues with outstanding royalties to any of the profit participants who created the show – the director, the 3-to-7 choreographers (depending on how you count), and the 6 definitively credited co-authors. If there are any unresolved financial matters with any of them – or for that matter, any threat of possible litigation regarding payment to those writers – then paid for or not, mixed or not, the album is almost certain to sit on a shelf until that’s all largely resolved. (I’m not saying I’ve heard rumors of lawyers getting involved, but I’m definitely not saying I haven’t.). There’s a reason it took three years for the cast album of Grand Hotel to get recorded and released back in the early 1990s - and while clearly a very different set of circumstances, some similarly complex issues apply. |
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| re: Indeed. And… | |
| Posted by: ryhog 04:55 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
| In reply to: Indeed. And… - ShowGoer 02:02 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
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| Without getting into the merits of any other "existing issues," the bottom line is that without a delivered product, everything else is moot. | |
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| re: Indeed. And… | |
| Posted by: ablankpage 02:26 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
| In reply to: Indeed. And… - ShowGoer 02:02 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
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| Can you say more about Grand Hotel? I don’t think I know the story behind that. | |
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| re: Indeed. And… | |
| Posted by: pecansforall 04:28 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Indeed. And… - ablankpage 02:26 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
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| Regarding the GRAND HOTEL Cast Recording issues, a very knowledgeable source (frontrowcentre2) posted the following on BroadwayWorld back in 2008: The problem was the music publication rights. Wright & Forrest who had written the original score of AT THE GRAND were upset not so much with the Maury Yeston interpretations but with the fact that Yeston re-wrote some of their songs. The Wright-Forrest songs were published (in their original unaltered versions) on one folio and the Yeston songs in another. Apparently Wright & Forrest wanted the score recorded the original way. By the time that was all sorted out most of the labels had lost interest. The album was done in April 1992 and landed in stores about a month AFTER the show had closed. Many of the recording labels also considered the show primarily a "dance" show not necessarily crying out for a cast recording. I also think I have read that a huge amount of the financing for the recording ultimately came from orchestrator Peter Matz. |
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| "Old Show Queens" share their memories of the tragic circumstances surrounding the GRAND HOTEL cast album | |
| Posted by: WeillFan 12:19 pm EDT 09/04/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Indeed. And… - pecansforall 04:28 pm EDT 09/03/22 | |
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| Broadway producer/general manager Gary Grunas and recording executive/playwright Billy Rosenfield were filmed by Playbill as "Old Show Queens." The online series featured their memories of show biz lore and Broadway celebrity encounters. In episode 10 starting at around the 3:30 mark, they go into detail about their involvement with the long-delayed "Grand Hotel" Broadway cast album. All the holdups over authorship and song rights meant that leading man David Carroll was tragically unable to record his Tony Award-nominated performance as the Baron. |
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| Link | Episode 10 of Playbill's "Old Show Queens" on YouTube |
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