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re: That $700k was opening week
Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:31 am EST 12/18/22
In reply to: re: That $700k was opening week - Delvino 11:21 am EST 12/18/22

It probably needs to gross around $1.5 million to $2 million per week for a year in order to recoup.
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re: That $700k was opening week: No secondary market
Posted by: NewtonUK 05:46 am EST 12/19/22
In reply to: re: That $700k was opening week - BroadwayTonyJ 11:31 am EST 12/18/22

What is interesting/discouraging is that pre-2020 a show with so many rave reviews would immediately have seen its tickets sold out for months to speculators on Stub Hub etc, That hasn't happened for this show - not a great sign, but not 'danger' yet. The issue they will have to manouevre, since sales arent strong over the holidays for SOME LIKE IT HOT, is how to get through January-February, traditionally slow times on Broadway, and then try to build going into the Tonys. Tye business of show has gotten very difficult once again.
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re: That $700k was opening week: No secondary market
Last Edit: Delvino 08:50 am EST 12/19/22
Posted by: Delvino 08:49 am EST 12/19/22
In reply to: re: That $700k was opening week: No secondary market - NewtonUK 05:46 am EST 12/19/22

"...a show with so many rave reviews would immediately have seen its tickets sold out for months to speculators on Stub Hub etc."

This is such an important point that some of us without the business prism (or acumen) fail to grasp. In today's marketplace, hit shows develop a subsidiary sales tier. An ol' TDF dude, I'm oblivious, though I followed this somewhat during early Woods sales, and for a friend wanting to see Funny Girl with the new star. Here, clearly, a scan of the sea of orange seats on Telecharge reveals: the intermediaries did not step in. That hadn't even crossed my mind, and this factor is missing in our threads on the show's non-sales.
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Update: No TDF, yet Tuesday night and Wednesday afternoon are 75% unsold.
Posted by: Delvino 09:31 am EST 12/19/22
In reply to: re: That $700k was opening week: No secondary market - Delvino 08:49 am EST 12/19/22

For comparison's sake, this looks like Paradise Square, which didn't have this show's glowing reception, to state the obvious. I checked the first two performances this week and see that the show has sold only about 20% of its seats for the midweek matinee -- the orchestra is mostly unsold, upstairs, nada -- only about 25% for tomorrow night. Yet TDF has been resisted.

There's just no interest in this piece of musical theater; its arrival in 2022 seems a strange miscalculation. Once again, admittedly a latecomer to the party, I'm stunned.
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re: Update: No TDF, yet Tuesday night and Wednesday afternoon are 75% unsold.
Posted by: NewtonUK 10:06 am EST 12/19/22
In reply to: Update: No TDF, yet Tuesday night and Wednesday afternoon are 75% unsold. - Delvino 09:31 am EST 12/19/22

It will be informative tomorrow, to see last week's grosses. Particularly did OHIO STATE MURDERS and SOME LIKE IT HOT See any significant uptick at all. Looking at January quicly, even HAMILTON and MOULIN ROUGE have tons of January availabiity. As does SIX. January looks like a truly challenging months even for the biggest of shows.
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Update: back on TDF this week since performances are 75% unsold.
Last Edit: Delvino 11:08 am EST 12/20/22
Posted by: Delvino 11:07 am EST 12/20/22
In reply to: re: Update: No TDF, yet Tuesday night and Wednesday afternoon are 75% unsold. - NewtonUK 10:06 am EST 12/19/22

Three weekday performances are back on TDF. They seem to wait until the last minute, which in other seasons might make box office sense, but here -- holiday week, brutally undersold -- seems like self-sabotage. I'll be curious about last week, too, since at the Wednesday matinee I attended, the balcony was filled with TDF ticket holders.
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