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| re: The Apartment vs Promises, Promises (longish). | |
| Posted by: claploudly 11:55 am EST 12/26/22 | |
| In reply to: re: The Apartment vs Promises, Promises (longish). - larry13 11:03 am EST 12/26/22 | |
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| But I think you are overlooking Lost in Yonkers for which Mercedes Ruhl won a Tony for her performance. Jane Kaczmarek is a Yale MFA graduate in the same graudating class with Kate Burton, Frances McDormand, and Angela Bassett I believe. Many people think of her as a more comedic actress because of her success in tv's Malcolm in the Middle. But when she replaced Ms Ruhl, the NY Times wrote a half page article with large photo of Ms. Kaczmarek about how often the replacements give a better performance that the original actor and make the play worth seeing again. Kaczmarek has gone on to play many other lead dramatic roles in such heavy-hitters as Long Day's Journey into Night, etc. | |
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| re: The Apartment vs Promises, Promises (longish). | |
| Posted by: larry13 12:16 pm EST 12/26/22 | |
| In reply to: re: The Apartment vs Promises, Promises (longish). - claploudly 11:55 am EST 12/26/22 | |
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| I'm definitely NOT overlooking LOST which I thought(yes, minority opinion)vastly overrated, possibly because Simon WAS writing about women and not exactly as he had written earlier. I didn't believe ANYthing in the play; only Irene Worth created a real human being. I don't blame Ruehl or any of the other actors.(Worth was a genius.) | |
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| re: The Apartment vs Promises, Promises (longish). | |
| Last Edit: Delvino 12:16 pm EST 12/26/22 | |
| Posted by: Delvino 12:05 pm EST 12/26/22 | |
| In reply to: re: The Apartment vs Promises, Promises (longish). - claploudly 11:55 am EST 12/26/22 | |
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| And a failure has two of his most complex characters: The Gingerbread Lady. In adapting, I think Simon and Hal David were blind to how a male privilege-dominated story denied Fran much agency beyond tragic romantic yearning. Yes, the songs do the heavy lifting in a musical, but as per my post above, Fran wanted nothing but a better (unmarried) man. A boomer perspective, since boomers are sometimes blamed for being clueless and feckless: In 1968, when I was 17 and my ambitious female classmates were applying to top schools, somewhat startling. Am I overthinking this, in the thread? Maybe. But I always think musical comedies set in the present (see Company, etc.) are compelling windows into were we are as a society, and gender is ever an interesting prism. |
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