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| Posted by: singleticket 12:33 am EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: The show's logo - Amiens 10:15 pm EST 12/26/22 | |
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| ...it would seem that the show was always intended to be something of the "tired businessman's delight" or whatever that genre of mindless sex romp was called. ... 1968 Times Square was still an adult entertainment district. Even HAIR had a bit of nudie come-on to it... exploitation mixed with revolution. |
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| re: The show's logo | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 03:06 am EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: The show's logo - singleticket 12:33 am EST 12/27/22 | |
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| There's 1 very short section with nudity. It's as if it was part of the marketing like Oh Calcutta. And I think it's silly to call it exploitation at all. The brief nudity in Hair is about freedom, expression, sexual freedom, non-conformity, fighting the status quo, etc. It's not to titillate audiences with sex or sexual acts or teasing. | |
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| re: The show's logo | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 09:27 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: The show's logo - Chazwaza 03:06 am EST 12/27/22 | |
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| As the nudity was not in the show at the Public, I rather think it was added for publicity value more than anything else. And it worked. It got a massive amount of publicity, and I have little doubt it was part of the reason that the show was such a hit. | |
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| Hair | |
| Posted by: Amiens 08:59 am EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: The show's logo - Chazwaza 03:06 am EST 12/27/22 | |
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| While I might agree with you that the nudity in Hair could be considered a part of the story-telling of its characters, such as they are, I think it's a bit disingenuous to think that the nudity wasn't a huge selling point for the production. It may have been more word of mouth than advertising, but it was certainly mentioned in every article (and probably every review) written about the show. Everybody was talking about it. A very similar comparison to Take Me Out, the original production and the revival. Exploitation? I'm not so sure. But getting back to those Promises, Promises logos, I think they were definitely created to titillate, whether the show actually delivered in that way or not. |
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| re: Hair | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 06:19 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: Hair - Amiens 08:59 am EST 12/27/22 | |
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| Unless we're calling all nudity on stage exploitation, I don't think any that are part of the concept of the play can be called that. Though for what it's worth, both Hair and Take Me Out can be done without the nudity, but I think for both it is inherent to the show and it's worth doing. However it is MUCH more present and visible in Take Me Out. And while of course people are going to mention and write about the nudity in any show with nudity... the show didn't market itself as sexual or nude at all. But yes totally agree the Promises Promises logos were 100% trying to sell that aspect of the show... in a misleading way... it doesn't really reflect the actual show. |
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| Take Me Out | |
| Posted by: Amiens 06:50 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Hair - Chazwaza 06:19 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| How can you do Take Me Out without the nudity? There are 2 scenes that specifically take place in a locker room shower. Though I agree with you that the nudity there is integral to the script and thus not exploitive. |
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| re: Take Me Out | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 08:07 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: Take Me Out - Amiens 06:50 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| I mean i guess that it could be altered to not need them nude in the shower, it could be in the locker room with towels or underwear (couldn't it in theory? I don't remember what happens in those scenes tbh)... but maybe not. And that isn't doing the play as written. But the play was conceived for it to have the nudity. | |
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| re: Hair | |
| Last Edit: singleticket 12:05 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| Posted by: singleticket 11:58 am EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: Hair - Amiens 08:59 am EST 12/27/22 | |
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| A very similar comparison to Take Me Out, the original production and the revival. Exploitation? I'm not so sure. If there was nudity in TAKE ME OUT, I didn't notice it. I was too excited by the breakthrough in representation by centering LGBT experience in American sports. :) |
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