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| Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 10:10 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 10:10 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: Some like it hot took a nose dive and ain’t no mo is soaring. - dramedy 09:51 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| Wow. Didn't Ain't No Mo close on Friday? Has it been extended? Unbelievable news about Some Like it Hot. Who would've thought an old fashioned show with a snappy score and good reviews would do this poorly at the box office? I'm guessing they need a star at this point. Borle isn't box office but his role is hard to cast. Maybe a name as Sugar. Is it too late to go that route? It saved Funny Girl. The Great Comet tried to save their show later in its run by casting Mandy Patinkin but we all know how that turned out. I bet it would've worked though. Who could SLIH bring in that would help? Surprising about Take Me Out too with all the full frontal nudity to draw people in. They should get Rhianna to play Sugar. Or Fantastia. She's proven. Could Jennifer Hudson do it? Where does her show tape? Heather Headley? I would go back for that. | |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: StageManager 11:10 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: Sugar casting ideas? - KingSpeed 10:10 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| A few thoughts: Younger people don';t know anything about the movie and could not care less The character of Sugar Kane is a big black hole in the production, neither charming or funny or anything else For me just one (or more than one) tap dance number too far The Daphne characters embracing her "girlhood" just rings false in 1933 America. Does she want to be a gay man? does she want to have a sex change operation? Huh? Liked the show didn't love it. Sorry to see a lot fo talented people working their tales off up there and not connecting |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: Ann 11:24 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - StageManager 11:10 am EST 12/28/22 | |
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| There were people living as the other gender in 1933. I had no huh? reaction to this. I agree about young people not knowing/carrying about the title. Tons of fun tap-dancing, some love it. Lots of people seen to like the door slamming bit, but that's what I thought went on for too long. Still, I liked it and would recommend it for anyone on the fence. I'd be very happy to see it succeed. I don't know what the NY marketing is like, but they're not clearing the hurdle. |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: huskyital (huskyital@yahoo.com) 11:29 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: Sugar casting ideas? - KingSpeed 10:10 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| How about rewriting the role of Sugar making her the ditzy but vulnerable blonde that made the film such a success and the character so memorable. Marilyn's rendition of I wanna be loved by you was much sexier than anything that Sugar sings now. | |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 09:40 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - huskyital 11:29 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| Would you be happy with a blond wig or do you need that white skin? | |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: Ann 09:14 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - huskyital 11:29 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| I don't think the ditzy blonde thing works so well these days. I think they choose a problematic project for 2022, did a terrific job with it, but still have the problem of pre-conceived notions from the film and its premise. People who would probably like it are not going. And I'm not sure they have many discounts out there for non-insiders to give it a low cost try. |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 04:12 pm EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - Ann 09:14 am EST 12/28/22 | |
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| I agree about it being problematic for this moment. I adore the movie--agree with those who think it may be the greatest film comedy ever--but it was a product of ITS time (late 50s) and was able to do some of its gender stereotyping by harkening back to an even earlier era. I have not seen this production (simply not in the city this time) so can only go by reports, and I gather the actor playing Daphne/Jerry is wonderful, but it seems to wrench the focus of the plot so much by having a discovery of transgender identity in the story. It also sounds like the discovery of gender identity is accomplished by dressing up and imitating a stereotype of a woman--that doesn't sound particularly progressive to me, even for something that is farcical in genre. The lives of trans people deserve better and more thoughtful (even if in the form of comedy) dramatization than that! | |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: Ann 05:57 pm EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - BruceinIthaca 04:12 pm EST 12/28/22 | |
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| I don't think it wrenches the focus (but there's so little focus on Sugar, it creates a void) and I didn't get the feeling the character is supposed to be trans, but non binary, to use a contemporary term. | |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: lanky 08:33 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - huskyital 11:29 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| While we're at it, how about rewriting all of Sugar's songs. The ones in the current version have little impact. | |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: Ncassidine 09:43 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - lanky 08:33 am EST 12/28/22 | |
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| I think part of that is because they are extraneous. They are mostly fine songs that don't need to be there. | |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Posted by: seeseveryshow 10:23 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: Sugar casting ideas? - KingSpeed 10:10 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| Can Billy Porter tap dance? Won’t Hugh and Sutton be free in a couple of weeks? |
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| re: Sugar casting ideas? | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 10:26 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 10:26 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - seeseveryshow 10:23 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| I thought of Billy (as Jerry/Daphne) too. He might sell tickets, not sure. I think he is a good enough dancer to learn the tap dancing in the show. Hugh will absolutely not free in a couple of weeks but Sutton might be. There's no role for her though. | |
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| They aren't going to recast Jerry/Daphne at this point. mmi | |
| Posted by: Ncassidine 07:49 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: Sugar casting ideas? - KingSpeed 10:26 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| You are right | |
| Posted by: dramedy 10:21 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: Sugar casting ideas? - KingSpeed 10:10 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| I knew it posted a closing notice for Dec 18 but I thought that was rescinded and tickets were on sale through Feb (I could have sworn I saw that a few days ago). But I guess it was extended only a week to 25th. I doubt stunt casting would save Hot. I’m shocked it is doing so badly and it hasn’t caught on. But some of your suggestions are way too old for the part—sugar needs to be young. |
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| Link | https://www.vulture.com/2022/12/aint-no-mo-play-closing-broadway.html#:~:text=Broadway%20has%20decided%20that%20Ain,it%20opened%20on%20December%201. |
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| Posted by: sirpupnyc 10:27 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: You are right - dramedy 10:21 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| Telecharge did have it on sale through February (at least, the calendar didn't end at 12/23 as it would have if they'd had that as the closing date) last week, in between the closing and the extended closing. Not sure what was going on there. Maybe whoever updated the database only read the press release as far as "not ending 12/18." | |
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| Posted by: KingSpeed 10:25 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
| In reply to: You are right - dramedy 10:21 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| Onstage, they could look younger. Also- I don't consider my ideas to be "stunt" casting. That is like casting Marcia Brady as Rizzo. What I'm suggesting is "star" casting. | |
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| Posted by: Chatty2007 09:41 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: You are right - KingSpeed 10:25 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| Those suggestions for Sugar replacements are absurd - they ARE too old. Even if they look younger, they don't look like they're 25. Plus, we all know they're pushing/are past 50. My main criticism of the show (which I enjoyed and am upset is failing commercially) is...why Christian Borle? HE's too old. I completely disagree with earlier poster who said it's a hard role to cast. I think there are a lot of guys, known and unknown, who could do it. Despite the jokes in the show about how his character looks old, it makes no sense that the two guys who were raised as brothers are 20 years apart. And it gives something of a "dirty old man" to his courtship of Sugar. | |
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| Posted by: winters 07:46 am EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: You are right - KingSpeed 10:25 pm EST 12/27/22 | |
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| Hey. I love Maureen McCormack. And the part of Rizzo is not exactly Hamlet. | |
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| re: You are right | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 04:14 pm EST 12/28/22 | |
| In reply to: re: You are right - winters 07:46 am EST 12/28/22 | |
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| No, I see Maureen more as a Viola or Rosalind. "Viola! Viola! Viola!" |
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