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| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 09:45 pm EDT 03/30/23 | |
| In reply to: It’s not in the script. - KingSpeed 07:02 pm EDT 03/30/23 | |
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| Oh yeah, when I watch Joel Grey in the movie, “incredibly straight” are the exact words that come to mind. | |
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| re: It’s not in the script. | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 12:00 pm EDT 03/31/23 | |
| In reply to: re: It’s not in the script. - Singapore/Fling 09:45 pm EDT 03/30/23 | |
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| Why does gay come to mind? | |
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| re: It’s not in the script. | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 03:11 pm EDT 03/31/23 | |
| In reply to: re: It’s not in the script. - KingSpeed 12:00 pm EDT 03/31/23 | |
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| Actually, gay doesn’t come to mind. I think the Emcee, as played by Joel Grey, is queer non-binary and would probably use they pronouns if German gave them the option. But why does straight come to mind for you? Why do you look at the most openly gay society pre-Stonewall and insist that he’s definitely straight? Why do you look at a character who covers his face in a pound of paint and dresses like a dandy, a clear gay signifier, as being straight? |
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| re: It’s not in the script. | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 03:57 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: It’s not in the script. - Singapore/Fling 03:11 pm EDT 03/31/23 | |
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| I'm genuinely not sure where you get that Joel Grey's emcee "would" use they pronouns and identify as non-binary. Just as much as I don't get why someone would so confidently assume him to be straight. Not sure why one assumptions makes more sense than another, and it really bothers me when people in a modern day assign presumptions about what people in the past "would" do "if" xyz. Even with non-binary as an option to identify, the Emcee (as played by Grey) might very well not identify as non-binary, or might be gender queer but not specifically use they/them pronouns. Such a strange thing to assume and assert, especially in the effort to question or dismantle someone else's assumption about sexuality or gender of a character. |
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