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| Bad grosses | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 12:08 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 12:04 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: not bad, CINDERELLA - standingO 11:15 pm EDT 04/04/23 | |
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| $632k last week of post opening performances. I also think the reviews were too harsh but the show isn’t catching on. It seems like shucked is getting better reviews which is perplexing to me. | |
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| Shucked is fun | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:11 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: Bad grosses - dramedy 12:04 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| Lowbrow Brilliant to use the Approval Matrix definition. It's a delightful show with an appealing cast who get to be funny, sing some killer songs, and build a small community inside the walls of the Nederlander. To my great surprise, it's probably the thing I liked the most on my last trip to New York. It won't be everyone's cup of tea - it certainly doesn't appeal to some of the pompous NYC critics, and you have to meet it on its own, kind of dumb terms - but for many of us, it's a really enjoyable couple of hours in the theater. |
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| re: Shucked is fun | |
| Posted by: duckylittledictum 02:53 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: Shucked is fun - Singapore/Fling 12:11 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| My thoughts exactly. | |
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| re: Shucked is fun | |
| Posted by: downtownlw 04:19 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Shucked is fun - duckylittledictum 02:53 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| I found it to be a master class in fun! | |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Posted by: lowwriter 01:39 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: Bad grosses - dramedy 12:04 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| The problem with Bad Cinderella is that most of the score is totally forgettable except Only You, Lonely You. | |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:07 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - lowwriter 01:39 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| You didn't find the title song, with its cribbing - I mean "homage" - of Rodgers and Hammerstein to be an infectious earworm? | |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Posted by: J.Collins 02:13 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - lowwriter 01:39 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| I've never understood why this is used as a criticism. If you've forgotten the majority of the score, isn't that a reflection on your memory for melodies? I don't see why it's the fault of a composer that you can't remember their music | |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Last Edit: lowwriter 01:08 am EDT 04/06/23 | |
| Posted by: lowwriter 01:06 am EDT 04/06/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - J.Collins 02:13 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| What I meant to say is that most of the score is so banal and boring that I had no reason to listen to the songs ever again except the one song I mentioned. | |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Last Edit: EvFoDr 02:53 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 02:51 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - J.Collins 02:13 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| I'll go a step further and say that regardless of the REASON why a person may not remember the melodies--be that a function of the melodies themselves or a person's memory for melodies--I don't get why the assessment of memorable or not is so often used as a measure of success or listener enjoyment, or quality. I tend to think that melodies that are memorable after one viewing of a show are either familiar to begin with (derivative?), very simple, or repeated so many times that it's inevitable they would be remembered. None of these makes a melody good, necessarily. I didn't walk out of Caroline or Change remembering the melodies, but thought it was exceptional and couldn't wait to see it again and get the recroding for a deeper dive. On the other hand I certainly walked out of La Cage humming The Best of Times. It's a long repetitive song that is also then reprised. And all towards the end of the show. And that's great too. Love them both. There is room for all. But remembering the songs doesn't make them good, and not remembering them doesn't make them bad. Maybe what people really mean is they didn't LIKE the songs. Whichs is totally valid. |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 10:28 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - J.Collins 02:13 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| It’s easier to remember the title song of “Hello Dolly” after one listening than it is to remember any song by Michael John LaChiusa. It’s simple and repetitive. | |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 05:02 pm EDT 04/06/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - KingSpeed 10:28 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| That's true, but I have found LaChiusa sometimes does have songs that are sort of catchy, songs that stick in your head and that you can at least partly sing when the show is over. | |
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| THE WILD PARTY's Score | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 06:58 pm EDT 04/06/23 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 06:57 pm EDT 04/06/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - AlanScott 05:02 pm EDT 04/06/23 | |
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| I saw The Wild Party a single time at the Virginia months before the cast album was released and couldn't get "People Like Us" out of my head (among other songs from that incredible score). | |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Posted by: Revned 02:28 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - J.Collins 02:13 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| I agree. If immediate memorability/hummability of the songs were the main criterion for quality, we would be obligated to acknowledge MAMMA MIA! as the greatest of all musicals. | |
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| re: Bad grosses | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 10:25 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Bad grosses - Revned 02:28 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| But dramedy didn’t say Bad Cinderella was the greatest of all musicals. Just said “decent.” | |
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| re: "It seems like shucked is getting better reviews which is perplexing to me" | |
| Posted by: Dale 12:29 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: Bad grosses - dramedy 12:04 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| How perplexing is a funny evening of theater? | |
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| I didn’t find it very funny and score is weak | |
| Posted by: dramedy 12:46 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: "It seems like shucked is getting better reviews which is perplexing to me" - Dale 12:29 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| I found producers and Mormon to be funny and intelligent humor. Shucked is pretty lowbrow. A few good jokes here and there doesn’t make up with the relentless bombardment of jokes hoping some will stick. | |
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