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| Posted by: J.Collins 02:09 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: not bad, CINDERELLA - standingO 11:15 pm EDT 04/04/23 | |
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| Thanks for your post, but get ready for the abuse. It seems a cardinal sin around here to suggest even the slightest approval of anything Lloyd Webber is associated with. It's great that you are able to maintain an open mind, but just get ready to be told you are WRONG | |
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| How childish | |
| Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 06:24 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 06:23 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: not bad, CINDERELLA - J.Collins 02:09 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| People have genuine critiques of the show—and they seem to be pretty much in keeping with what the critics had to say. And not for nothing, but just because you don’t grasp what a “forgettable score” means (hint: it means it’s not particularly compelling or original, not that the listener has a poor memory) doesn’t make the critique is “abusive.” |
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| re: How childish | |
| Posted by: J.Collins 08:33 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: How childish - MockingbirdGirl 06:23 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| You're entitled to your own opinion and critique, but you're not entitled to change the meaning of words to suit your agenda. Forgettable has a specific meaning, 'original' has a meaning - and they are not the same (I refer you to any dictionary if you care to check). If the poster thought the score was unoriginal, they could have said that. They didn't. A score might be extremely derivative yet extremely memorable. The two are not synonymous. | |
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| re: How childish | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:39 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: How childish - J.Collins 08:33 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| Is there a reason you elide MBG's word "compelling" which seems to cover all that you say here, focused only on "original." It is well to remember that one's opinion of a particular score is always a subjective opinion. Moreover, what one remembers of it or not is uniquely personal, probably biologically. Finally, I do not think one can equate "dismissive" with "abusive." It is also well to remember that this is a discussion board, where relevant topics can be discussed and debated. Disagreeing with someone in that context is not abusive. |
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| re: How childish | |
| Posted by: J.Collins 01:14 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: How childish - ryhog 11:39 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| That is not an elision - I chose to use just one of the terms offered as an example, but the same applies for both. Forgettable has a specific meaning, as does uncompelling. They are not the same. If the poster didn't find the score compelling, they could have said that. They didn't. I am responding to what the poster did write, not what others may want to read on to what the poster wrote. | |
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| re: How childish | |
| Posted by: ryhog 03:24 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: How childish - J.Collins 01:14 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| I don't know how much future this definition stuff has but to me (and I think most) "compelling" means "unable to forget." The first four notes of Beethoven's 5th are unforgettable because they are compelling. (My preferred word is "resonant" but that's another matter. That seems to be a sidebar in any case. Your original point was "abuse." I do not think it is fair to label any of the words being used "abusive," here or elsewhere. ALW has written some memorable tunes over the years and maybe even one in this show. But a score? I don't think even avid fans would say this one is all that. |
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| re: How childish | |
| Posted by: Sam890 08:00 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: How childish - MockingbirdGirl 06:23 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| With your attempt at insult and condescending tone, you've just proved J. Collins' point. Also, J. Collins' never suggested that calling a score forgettable is 'abusuve'. You have made an error here, and really should apologize |
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| re: How childish | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 08:04 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: How childish - Sam890 08:00 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| “ If you've forgotten the majority of the score, isn't that a reflection on your memory for melodies?” But sure, my post is insulting. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| re: How childish | |
| Posted by: Sam890 08:16 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: How childish - MockingbirdGirl 08:04 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| You chose to call someone childish - that's an insult. J. Collins posed a legitimate question. People differ greatly in their ability to recall melodies. Some have posted here that the score for Bad Cinderella has catchy melodies that stick in the ear, some have said they found it unmemorable. It seems perfectly reasonable to suggest that memorability might be in the 'ear of the beholder' and a function of the listeners capacity to remember. But sure, rather than engage in a meaningful way, just lable someone childish who might have a different opinion to you. |
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| re: How childish | |
| Last Edit: Jeff73 09:32 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| Posted by: Jeff73 09:31 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: How childish - Sam890 08:16 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| My god, people on this board can be pedantic... they really like to argue about the littlest things, don't they? | |
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| re: How childish | |
| Posted by: PaulGrin 12:46 pm EDT 04/05/23 | |
| In reply to: re: How childish - Jeff73 09:31 am EDT 04/05/23 | |
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| It's the little things you do together that make perfect relationships. | |
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