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re: Does Disney own Howard?
Posted by: showtunesoprano 01:36 pm EDT 05/19/23
In reply to: Does Disney own Howard? - ryhog 12:36 pm EDT 05/19/23

I wasn't talking about Howard, specifically, but more worried about the scripted shows that are being removed. Here is a list compiled by Deadline of the properties being removed:

Big Shot [Disney+]
Turner & Hooch [Disney+]
The Mysterious Benedict Society [Disney+]
The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers [Disney+]
Willow [Disney+]
The Making Of Willow [Disney+]
Diary of a Future President [Disney+]
Just Beyond [Disney+]
The World According to Jeff Goldblum [Disney+]
Marvel’s Project Hero [Disney+]
Marvel’s MPower [Disney+]
Marvel’s Voices Rising: The Music of Wakanda Forever [Disney+]
Y: The Last Man [FX/Hulu]
Pistol [FX/Hulu]
Little Demon [FX/Hulu]
Maggie [Hulu]
Dollface [Hulu]
The Hot Zone [Nat Geo/Hulu]
The Premise [Hulu]
Love in the Time of Corona [Hulu]
Everything’s Trash [Hulu]
Best in Snow [Hulu]
Best in Dough [Hulu]
Darby and the Dead [Hulu]
The Quest [Hulu]
Rosaline [Disney+]
Cheaper by the Dozen remake [Disney+]
The One and Only Ivan [Disney+]
Stargirl [Disney+]
Artemis Fowl [Disney+]
The Princess [Disney+]
Encore! [Disney+]
A Spark Story [Disney+]
Black Beauty [Disney+]
Clouds [Disney+]
America the Beautiful [Disney+]
Better Nate Than Ever [Disney+]
Weird but True! [Disney+]
Timmy Failure [Disney+]
Be Our Chef [Disney+]
Magic Camp [Disney+]
Howard [Disney+]
Earth to Ned [Disney+]
Foodtastic [Disney+]
Stuntman [Disney+]
Disney Fairy Tale Weddings [Disney+]
Wolfgang [Disney+]
It’s a Dog’s Life with Bill Farmer [Disney+]
The Real Right Stuff [Disney+]
The Big Fib [Disney+]
Rogue Trip [Disney+]
More Than Robots [Disney+]
Shop Class [Disney+]
Pick the Litter [Disney+]
Own the Room [Disney+]
Among the Stars [Disney+]
Harmonious Live! [Disney+]
Pentatonix: Around the World for the Holidays [Disney+]

I don't not believe that most (any?) of these will become available for purchase elsewhere. And that is a damn shame and a real loss, on multiple levels.
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re: Does Disney own Howard?
Posted by: ryhog 02:11 pm EDT 05/19/23
In reply to: re: Does Disney own Howard? - showtunesoprano 01:36 pm EDT 05/19/23

At a glance, I recognize many of these as Disney properties (including series). The question here was very specific to Howard, which does not fall into that category so far as I can tell. I am not sure what the basis of your belief is, and your post is still confusing. (You mentioned scripted shows but all of these shows are scripted. Do you think Howard materialized without a script?)

There is a great deal of precedent for changing platforms of non-owned properties as well as syndicating and licensing owned properties. This goes back to the early days of broadcast TV. There are a lot of names on your list that I do not recognize and it would not surprise me if many/most of them have no future life for lack of interest. (Similarly, most TV shows have never been picked up, not because they were unavailable, but because there was simply no interest.) A series that is quickly cancelled is likely to die on the vine.
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re: Does Disney own Howard?
Posted by: showtunesoprano 04:05 pm EDT 05/19/23
In reply to: re: Does Disney own Howard? - ryhog 02:11 pm EDT 05/19/23

How can I help you better understand my post? I think it's pretty clear that there is a difference between a documentary (which, ok, "has a script") and a fictional series written by a writers room and performed by actors and filmed by a production crew, etc. That's what I meant by "scripted shows" which is pretty much how everyone understands that term to mean. I'm not sure which of my "beliefs" you need to understand the basis for. My belief that these shows will not be made available elsewhere is based on a tweet from an actor in one such show saying that it is "going into the Disney vault, for what seems to be forever." And my belief that this is a horrible thing, well, that's based on my soul.
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re: Does Disney own Howard?
Posted by: ryhog 07:14 pm EDT 05/19/23
In reply to: re: Does Disney own Howard? - showtunesoprano 04:05 pm EDT 05/19/23

1. Sorry, Howard is a scripted show. Who is this "everyone" you refer to? :-) [This reminds me, painfully, of an exchange with my father when I was about 16. Dad: "Where are you going?" Me: "There's a party at Billy's house." Dad: "You aren't going." Me: "But Dad, everyone is going." Dad: "No. You are a part of everyone and you are not going." :-) ]

2. The belief I was referring to was the one you mention in you final paragraph, that none of these properties would become available elsewhere. I'd take that bet (and yes I realize this is all moot now).

3. I would never ever question beliefs coming from your soul.
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re: Does Disney own Howard?
Posted by: JAllenC3 02:21 pm EDT 05/19/23
In reply to: re: Does Disney own Howard? - ryhog 02:11 pm EDT 05/19/23

Exactly. And Disney has also been open about exploring the possibility of creating either a FAST or AVOD platform to supplement Disney+ & Hulu where much of this content could wind up. Much like Paramount has Parmount+ & PlutoTV to promote and monetize their content in different ways.
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