Threaded Order Chronological Order
| re: Mary Tyler Moore | |
| Posted by: champagnesalesman 01:09 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Mary Tyler Moore - PlayWiz 12:48 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
|
|
|
| Lainie was fired from Seesaw and The Women in the same season Christian Hoff left Pal Joey during previews and his understudy, many decades younger than Stockard Channing, took over Eleanor Parker also left Pal Joey(earlier revival) What is it with Pal Joey? |
|
| reply to this message |
| re: Mary Tyler Moore | |
| Posted by: larry13 02:04 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Mary Tyler Moore - champagnesalesman 01:09 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
|
|
|
| Edward Villella left Pal Joey the day before Parker did! But again, these were not instances of firing. | |
| reply to this message |
| re: Mary Tyler Moore | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 01:23 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Mary Tyler Moore - champagnesalesman 01:09 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
|
|
|
| But Christian Hoff was injured in early previews, right? Am I remembering that correctly? That's not exactly being fired, at least not in the way this thread is talking about. Same thing happened to James Carpinello in XANADU. Early preview injury and replaced, in that case, by Cheyenne Jackson. |
|
| reply to this message | reply to first message |
| Hoff, then Risch in PAL JOEY | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 02:55 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 02:54 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Mary Tyler Moore - JereNYC 01:23 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
|
|
|
| Hoff was injured in early previews, but apparently recovered. Nevertheless, he was replaced. I recall him dancing on some nationally televised TV special to show audiences that he was perfectly fine and should not have been replaced. I think Channing had better chemistry with Matthew Risch than she did with Hoff so there's probably more to the story than what was disclosed at the time. | |
| reply to this message | reply to first message |
| On that note, Ron Orbach | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 03:56 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 03:54 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
| In reply to: Hoff, then Risch in PAL JOEY - BroadwayTonyJ 02:54 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
|
|
|
| Ron got hurt during (before?) the Chicago tryout of The Producers. Swing Brad Oscar took over but Ron was back in time for the critics. He got a rave in Variety in fact but by that time, everyone wanted Brad back. Bummer for Ron. He did nothing wrong. | |
| reply to this message | reply to first message |
| re: On that note, Ron Orbach | |
| Posted by: Jnf663 05:37 am EDT 05/25/23 | |
| In reply to: On that note, Ron Orbach - KingSpeed 03:54 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
|
|
|
| What’s interesting to me about that one is that the video of The Producers that has circulated among collectors for years has Ron Orbach in the show instead of Brad Oscar. So at least for people like me who watched that video countless times growing up, Orbach’s performance has lived on. | |
| reply to this message | reply to first message |
| re: Hoff, then Risch in PAL JOEY | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 03:45 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
| In reply to: Hoff, then Risch in PAL JOEY - BroadwayTonyJ 02:54 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
|
|
|
| Risch was (still is?) also the lover of the director which some speculated played into it. Not that Risch isn't talented enough to deserve the role, because I think he is. Also interesting to note that people like Hoff, and Matt Cavenaugh, and maybe others in this thread I don't feel like researching, never worked again in a Broadway show after exit from said show. |
|
| reply to this message | reply to first message |
| re: Hoff, then Risch in PAL JOEY | |
| Posted by: dannyr416 11:12 am EDT 05/25/23 | |
| In reply to: re: Hoff, then Risch in PAL JOEY - EvFoDr 03:45 pm EDT 05/24/23 | |
|
|
|
| I don't think Risch and Mantello are still together. A few years later though, Risch was Thomas Sadoski's understudy in Other Desert Cities, which Mantello also directed. I saw him go on. I think he was playing the role for an extended period, and he was very solid. Also one again opposite Stockard Channing. He also popped up in that unfortunate Tales of the City reboot on Netflix a few years back, so he's clearly still working. | |
| reply to this message | reply to first message |
Time to render: 0.041705 seconds.