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| SPOILER re: HERE LIES LOVE PS - musicians on the 2016 album | |
| Posted by: sondheimobsessed7090 01:04 pm EDT 05/27/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE LIES LOVE PS - musicians on the 2016 album - Singapore/Fling 05:09 pm EDT 05/26/23 | |
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| Hey jumping in here to clarify since no one whose seen it seems to have explained this here - The reason they need to be tracks is because there's a total stripping down of the karaoke club at the end as a symbol of the protest that ended the regime. And at that moment three cast members step in and ask as a small acoustic band, and play live instruments and sing a song in which the lyrics contain verbatim accounts of that protest; So having live instruments for the show up to that moment would entirely take away the integrity of that theatrical conceit - and limit the metaphorical symbolism of that moment - the tracks rather than real instruments demonstrating the overproduced, fake, corrupt, uncaring energy of the Marcos regime in contrast with what feels like a small live indie band, to represent the on the ground, regular people, protesters who just want to live in a free country. What I am confused about in this thread (and I haven't seen the social media posts, so maybe I'm missing something! ) is that I haven't seen any statement from AFM about this or an indication that the deal wasn't actually already made. Bonnie |
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| re: SPOILER re: HERE LIES LOVE PS - musicians on the 2016 album | |
| Last Edit: Chromolume 10:18 pm EDT 05/27/23 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 10:15 pm EDT 05/27/23 | |
| In reply to: SPOILER re: HERE LIES LOVE PS - musicians on the 2016 album - sondheimobsessed7090 01:04 pm EDT 05/27/23 | |
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| The reason they need to be tracks is because there's a total stripping down of the karaoke club at the end as a symbol of the protest that ended the regime. And at that moment three cast members step in and ask as a small acoustic band, and play live instruments and sing a song in which the lyrics contain verbatim accounts of that protest; So having live instruments for the show up to that moment would entirely take away the integrity of that theatrical conceit - and limit the metaphorical symbolism of that moment - the tracks rather than real instruments demonstrating the overproduced, fake, corrupt, uncaring energy of the Marcos regime in contrast with what feels like a small live indie band, to represent the on the ground, regular people, protesters who just want to live in a free country. Thank you. That's all very very literal. But we're talking about theatre, not reality. Suspension of disbelief and all that. Viscerally speaking, an unseen orchestra would still provide the same exact effect. The actors are playing characters, they are wearing costumes, they are lit by theatre lights on a designed theatrical set, etc - but we aren't supposed to be thinking about that as we watch. In the same exact way, a live orchestra could easily provide the music that the karaoke machine would reproduce in the story. And when a few of the actors later "step in and act as a small acoustic band," they would still be doing something we hadn't yet seen in the show - onstage music performed by the actors. And, because most of us are used to, and expect, live musicians, we wouldn't question the conceit. I doubt anyone would walk out of the production with a live orchestra complaining that it shouldn't have had a live orchestra. I guarantee you. It's just like seeing the wires when Peter Pan flies. It's part of a theatrical conceit. In your literal world, Peter would have to actually levitate on his own. |
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| re: SPOILER re: HERE LIES LOVE PS - musicians on the 2016 album | |
| Posted by: ryhog 01:28 am EDT 05/28/23 | |
| In reply to: re: SPOILER re: HERE LIES LOVE PS - musicians on the 2016 album - Chromolume 10:15 pm EDT 05/27/23 | |
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| With the understanding (that I have expressed elsewhere in this thread that all of this is a tangent to the only pending issue (viz., that this show cannot go forward without some number of 802 musicians), and with respect, I feel something has blinded you to the actual situation here. This is not about suspension of belief, it is about storytelling. I am guessing you have not seen the show, but having live musicians playing unproduced karaoke tracks does not "provide the exact same effect" for the same reason that recorded and produced music in a typical musical doesn't. (You did land on one obvious aspect of the resolution: as I mentioned previously, the players at the end of the show will obviously need to be or become AFM members and that constitutes a base on which an agreement can be reached. That's non-negotiable.) It's not like this show has no track record. It was done downtown for several months and was nominated for and won a ton of awards as well as being very well reviewed. No one complained that they were "used to, and expect[ed] live musicians." The only thing that has changed here is the venue. Whether people would walk out is a bizarre criteria. Most of us don't walk out of shows even when we intensely dislike them. I think we have beaten this into the ground but to me there is no question that there is not going to be a live orchestra playing the karaoke tracks. And I am pretty sure 802 is not going to demand 19 walkers or anywhere near that. I hope we can all refocus on the actual issue because this one isn't as much fun anymore. :-) |
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