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| re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:44 am EDT 06/03/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA - MockingbirdGirl 08:51 am EDT 06/03/23 | |
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| You (and Newt, among others) betray a misapprehension about the arrangement and conveyance of music. One can always play the entire score of South Pacific on a piano, but it is not the same and I don't think you would anticipate R&H going along with it for a Broadway production. The music envisioned by Byrne et al cannot be played raw, and it cannot be produced in real time on a sound board. That is a fact that cannot intelligently be disputed. Your second paragraph is equally jumbled. Byrne and co can do whatever they want in a Broadway theatre but that does not mean that the production does not have to play by the rules of the CBA. This is 100% about money and contracts, and 0% about artistic intention. Similarly, a production can decide that its star is non-fungible and ask AEA to waive the requirement of an understudy. That request may or may not be granted but the show does not have to go forward with the understudy. I point all of this out because there is way too much misinformation surrounding this subject. If you have not read the article alanscott linked (and that I urged everyone to read) now would be a good time. |
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| re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA | |
| Last Edit: Singapore/Fling 12:49 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:42 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA - ryhog 11:44 am EDT 06/03/23 | |
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| By article, do you mean the Facebook post? I’m not clear what that communicated that works against what MBG wrote (which actually says, in the second paragraph, exactly what you are saying). | |
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| re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA | |
| Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 12:19 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 12:18 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA - ryhog 11:44 am EDT 06/03/23 | |
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| I've read alanscott's post... and have not written anything that contradicts it. Also, the waiver you suggest to dispense with musicians has already been denied. Now here's one that perhaps you haven't read: |
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| Link | A View from the Podium |
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| re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA | |
| Posted by: ryhog 02:07 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA - MockingbirdGirl 12:18 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
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| I had not read the piece you link, and I appreciate your providing it. I have no problem with your second paragraph. My issue is with "the hypocrisy of the 'it can’t possibly be done with live musicians!' argument" because (and yes I know I am beginning to sound like a broken record, no pun intended) it is in fact not possible to replicate a fully "produced" recording [which is what the substance of the show calls for, except for the end piece] with live musicians performing in the theatre. Now folks can say the didn't notice and don't care, but that's no different than someone saying the score of South Pacific can be played on a synth and that they wouldn't notice the difference or wouldn't care. Now you say that "the waiver has already been denied." Unless you know something that no one else does, that's not true. My understanding is that the procedure in the CBA is in process. By the way, at a bare minimum, musicians covered under the CBA would be required for the end piece I mention above. And if the production is stuck on zero musicians (and I don't think it is), then the options are (more or less as your article says) to move, to pay 19 musicians or such lesser number as determined by the committee) not to play, or to cancel the production. |
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