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| re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA | |
| Last Edit: ryhog 02:12 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
| Posted by: ryhog 02:11 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA - NewtonUK 01:58 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
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| Your rendition of the facts regarding what has been/is being done in this case is incorrect, as is your understanding of the process, which is very clear in Section V. F. of the CBA. | |
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| re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 10:48 am EDT 06/04/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA - ryhog 02:11 pm EDT 06/03/23 | |
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| As I read (V)(f) and all the appendices about adjustments to (V)(f), it remains clear that the a) the producer is meant to contact AFM expeditiously after acquiring a theatre to bring the Special Situation to the union's attention. It is also mentioned in the CBA that AFM might already be aware of major productions that have been done other than on Broadway, under considerations in variance with the CBA. It is clear that (V)(F) anticipates productions like RENT or ONCE etc, that by the nature of the music and style may require a smaller orchestra than a current minimum at a Broadway theatre. What (V)(F) does not seem to anticipate is a musical show whose special circumstance requires no orchestra, and will be using tracks rather than live musicians. There is a musical director, who one assumes is AFM. Lets keep in mind that this musical without musicians also eliminates the job of a rehearsal pianist or rehearsal musicians, most likely, as well as payments to orchestrators and copyists. Potentially there are losses in income of $150,000+ pre opening, and $42,000+ per week during performances. Plus large losses of benefits being paid into the union benefit plans, although I assume that the 045 will still be paid, so the AFM pension plan will get its share - but their health plan will get nothing - of the producers get their way. |
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| re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA | |
| Posted by: ryhog 01:09 pm EDT 06/04/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE LIES LOVE originally WITH LIVE ORCHESTRA - NewtonUK 10:48 am EDT 06/04/23 | |
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| A couple of key elements that you don't get quite right. 1. Contrary to what you seem to be suggesting, the V.F. procedures are currently underway. I do not know when the initiation commenced but that's moot at this point. The contract urges expedition but iirc 2. There is nothing in the CBA that I see suggesting (as you do) that "fewer than" the minimum (here, 19) excludes its natural meaning which would be 0-18. Having said that, we can agree that the production is dealing with this in a monumentally unwise way. Also, as I have said before, considering the live music at the end, it is inconceivable that the correct number is 0. A couple of other tangents. * The way the committee operates, it is basically up to the (odd number of) neutral(s) to make the decision since the league and union members are equally split. And to me the consist of the neutrals leans management. * It is possible if not likely that the reason for this line in the sand approach is to be a precursor to what is likely to be a very ugly new contract negotiation in which there will be claims of existential threats on both sides, which has become popular (and often for good reason). |
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