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Days of Wine and Roses
Posted by: MikeP (acl15@aol.com) 02:53 pm EDT 07/20/23

Greetings all,

Ive read/heard that Days of Wine and Roses will be moving to Broadway in the fall. Speculation was at the Lyceum. Now Im hearing that its not definite. Can anyone shed credible light on this? I love this story, Guttel and the always brilliant leads. I couldn't see it OB so Im really hoping for Broadway!

Many thanks!
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re: Days of Wine and Roses
Posted by: Ncassidine 07:09 pm EDT 07/20/23
In reply to: Days of Wine and Roses - MikeP 02:53 pm EDT 07/20/23

Where did you read or hear that? Because it seems incredibly unlikely if not impossible.
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re: Days of Wine and Roses
Posted by: KCforBway 06:53 pm EDT 07/20/23
In reply to: Days of Wine and Roses - MikeP 02:53 pm EDT 07/20/23

I saw the show two weeks ago and while I loved seeing Brian D'Arcy James and Kelli O'Hara do their master work up close, the show itself didn't do much for me. I love the score to PIAZZA and find there to be some lovely melodies within the work, but DAYS had nothing - I mean nothing - that raised my pulse rate. I would just say the score was boring - not a good thing for a musical. Someone else posted that most of the musical numbers sounded the same and I would concur with that assessment. Was there even a melody anywhere in the show - when I left the theater, there was nothing to hum that stuck with me. (Even the BACK TO THE FUTURE score had me humming a couple of the numbers after the show and that score isn't exactly what I would describe as accomplished.) Perhaps, though, the score will require repeated listenings for it to grow on me - I think that was true of PIAZZA back in the day.

The show worked very well dramatically and the acting was absolutely first-rate.

But I think the show is being heavily considered for Broadway. After my performance I overheard Kelli talking to people about the fact it may be headed uptown. The couple she was speaking to were sharing they found the ending to be pretty bleak, especially for Kelli's character (I agree). She suggested they could tinker with the ending if the show were to have a further commercial life. I don't know how I feel about a more hopeful ending but I can understand giving the consideration to making the ending more palatable for a mainstream audience.
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re: Days of Wine and Roses
Posted by: Chatty2007 03:22 pm EDT 07/20/23
In reply to: Days of Wine and Roses - MikeP 02:53 pm EDT 07/20/23

I do not think this show belongs on Broadway. It’s too small, to begin with. For all intents and purposes, it’s a 2-person show...plus the child. The father-in-law doesn’t sing (this is a musical, after all), and the AA sponsor never seemed to speak more than a line or two at a time.

But it’s also dated. Our understanding of – and pop culture’s portrayal of – alcoholism has evolved tremendously since 1960. We now know that you don’t have to be sitting around drinking all day, every day, to be an alcoholic, and that there are functional alcoholics, who still have jobs and go about their lives, etc. And a woman could be an alcoholic without ending up turning tricks in a sleazy hotel. The original movie is from a time before it was widely recognized that there could be a reason other than substance abuse for a married woman to sleep with a man who’s not her husband.
(I would hope this goes without saying, but I am not defending people cheating on their spouses; I’m just pointing out that this material dates from a time when most pop culture did not acknowledge that women might have sex because of actual desire. In 'Days of Wine and Roses' the wife has the story arc she does because that was the worst thing she could do, seeing as no "normal" woman would ever do such a thing...)

Whatever lyricism, etc. you think this show has, it revolves around a portrayal that's out of touch and heavy-handed. Kelli O'Hara's pretty singing is NOT enough, contrary to what many people seem to think. It's enough to go see her in concert, but not enough to justify a Broadway musical.

Also, except for that soft-shoe-type number, the songs all seem the same – same tempo, same staging, etc. I don’t think that works for most Broadway audiences. It’s a chamber musical for certain type of theatergoer – much too limited in appeal, as far as I’m concerned, for Broadway.
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re: Days of Wine and Roses
Posted by: Mmac72 03:11 pm EDT 07/20/23
In reply to: Days of Wine and Roses - MikeP 02:53 pm EDT 07/20/23

I'm betting that it won't transfer, but I'm also someone who didn't really care for it. I just don't think it's ready for Broadway yet.
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Since you’re someone who didn’t care for it…
Posted by: ShowGoer 03:36 pm EDT 07/20/23
In reply to: re: Days of Wine and Roses - Mmac72 03:11 pm EDT 07/20/23

… your ‘bet’ is biased - less of a prediction than perhaps a wish.

The show has the financial support of Warner Brothers and Kevin McCollum, Kelli O’Hara and Brian d’Arcy James wouldn’t ordinarily do a show for 2 months off-Broadway without the chance it would move, and the word was such a move was in the cards by first week of performances, pending audience and critical reaction.

The reviews from the major outlets were for the most part extraordinary, and word of mouth grew throughout the run to the point where as Ann says it was a tougher ticket than the new Sondheim musical. I also find it interesting that the Met’s revival of The Hours that O’Hara is in, which played last fall, is this season not being revived until May. So all signs point toward a move and not sure why you’d bet against that.

(Whether you think it will succeed, on the other hand, that’s a different question and completely fair game.)
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Disagree - look at L5Y
Posted by: sfow1 03:53 pm EDT 07/20/23
In reply to: Since you’re someone who didn’t care for it… - ShowGoer 03:36 pm EDT 07/20/23

I'm sure there are many since, but one would never think Last 5 Years belongs on Broadway. Yet Sherrie Rene Scott and Norbert Leo Butz - both big names at the time (and still) - did that two person show downtown. So there's that.
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re: Disagree - look at L5Y
Posted by: TheOtherOne 05:11 pm EDT 07/20/23
In reply to: Disagree - look at L5Y - sfow1 03:53 pm EDT 07/20/23

So funny to see you bring up Sherie Rene and Norbert, because while I was watching Days of Wine and Roses I immediately thought that Norbert would have been great in it. Not that Brian D'Arcy wasn't, but I can easily see Norbert playing Joe Clay.

I disagree with the assessment that the show's approach to alcoholism is dated. Husbands (and wives) are still hurt when cheated on, addicts are still vulnerable to peer pressure, parents still blame the spouse when a child turns to substance abuse. Nearly everyone blamed Bobby Brown for Whitney Houston's drug addiction, but she had apparently been using long before he came along.

Their daughter is older in the musical than she was in the film, and seeing her take on the manner of an alcoholic's child is a subtle and effective addition to this adaptation, which I liked very much. I hope more people get to see it.
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