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| re: The Encores "Not Pal Joey" | |
| Posted by: marknyc 03:04 am EDT 10/06/23 | |
| In reply to: re: The Encores "Not Pal Joey" - ryhog 07:23 pm EDT 10/05/23 | |
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| If it turns out to be terrific, that's great. But it will not be Pal Joey and should not be titled as such. There have been numerous examples of estates doing terrible things with creators' works, and people have spoken out against them. Stephen Sondheim took the major step of writing an editorial in the NY Times to protest what was being done to Porgy and Bess in Boston - they actually wrote a new happy ending, which they later dropped due to protests. We should all push estates to respect the trust they have been given. If they want to replace a book, fine - just change the title, too, as was done with Crazy For You. |
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| re: The Encores "Not Pal Joey" | |
| Posted by: ryhog 02:16 pm EDT 10/06/23 | |
| In reply to: re: The Encores "Not Pal Joey" - marknyc 03:04 am EDT 10/06/23 | |
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| 1. No matter how clever or original, no title is the property of the person who wrote it. Accordingly, an estate (or anyone else) lacks any basis for asserting a right to a title. 2. I dare say there have been many times more examples of creators doing terrible things. Anyone can protest anything: that's free speech, but meaningless. And using Sondheim as an example not only is of no greater import but is also ironic because both living and dead he has done precisely what he was criticizing.Finally, I think you have a causation issue. 3. There is quite a bit of presumption in saying that estates are not respecting the trust they have been given. That assumes the point you are trying to prove. I think most decedents have given their literary executors trust because they feel they will act consistent with the best interests that they have set out for the estate. See Sondheim. |
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| re: The Encores "Not Pal Joey" | |
| Posted by: marknyc 07:17 pm EDT 10/06/23 | |
| In reply to: re: The Encores "Not Pal Joey" - ryhog 02:16 pm EDT 10/06/23 | |
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| I'm not assuming anything. There are numerous examples of estates allowing works to be butchered to make more money. This has been discussed numerous times. I obviously know that the estate has the legal right to do whatever it wants, no matter how egregious. But speaking up can have an effect, as Sondheim's editorial proved. Again, I have no problem with adaptations - have at it. But - again - tossing out a book completely is not an adaptation, and the ethically correct and respectful thing to do is to retitle the work, as was done with Crazy For You. |
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| re: The Encores "Not Pal Joey" | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 11:13 am EDT 10/06/23 | |
| In reply to: re: The Encores "Not Pal Joey" - marknyc 03:04 am EDT 10/06/23 | |
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| just change the title, too, as was done with Crazy For You. Which also could have been Lend Me A Zangler...:-) |
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