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| Posted by: oddone 04:46 pm EDT 10/10/23 | |
| In reply to: re: It hasn’t opened yet. - JereNYC 03:07 pm EDT 10/10/23 | |
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| Short answer - yes. Generally for the awards that cover both Broadway and Off Broadway (Drama Desk, Outer Critics), a show's elements are only eligible in one awards cycle. So if the show is eligible when it is Off Broadway, and the Broadway transfer happens in a subsequent season, only the new elements in that Broadway transfer would be eligible. So you see with A Strange Loop, most elements of the Broadway transfer (book/score, design, supporting cast, the production itself) were not eligible, but since Jaquel Spivey was playing Usher, he WAS eligible, since he didn't play that role in the Playwrights Horizons production. Generally, "elements" are taken to mean the names of people. To my understanding, even if a set designer radically changed their design, if they are the same person attached to both productions, they would not be eligible again. The design crew for Here Lies Love is the same as at the Public, so all design elements for that show won't be eligible again, but the new cast members will be. Merrily We Roll Along has no new elements, so nothing in it will be eligible this season. For something like Days of Wine and Roses, where the Off Bway and Bway runs occur within the same season, my understanding is that the awards generally consider both productions. (And presumably, if a designer or actor gets swapped out, they could consider either person. Or even both. In theory, you could have two different actors nominated for the same role in the same production - one Off Bway and one Bway - but I doubt that would ever happen.) Likewise, if a show was NOT eligible in a previous Off Broadway run, for whatever reason, that same show could be eligible in a Broadway transfer. There is nothing saying that ONLY the first run could be eligible. Basically, eligibility is contingent on inviting the nominating committee (and playing in NYC, and running long enough, etc.). If a show doesn't invite nominators, it isn't eligible, so for the sake of those awards, it's as if that production hasn't happened. So if a show that never invited nominators before transfers, and now they choose to invite nominators, everything in that show - cast, score/book, design - would now be eligible. And whereas the Outer Critics Circle separates Broadway and Off Broadway shows (in many, but not all, categories), the Drama Desk does not. And, as has been noted by many on here, this means that Broadway nominees end up winning most of the time, simply because that is what more voters have seen. (And there are many reasons for this. In some cases, voters aren't even invited to Off Broadway runs; it isn't uncommon for a show to be eligible, and to get nominations, when it didn't invite voters.) So there is some logic to making the Off Broadway run of your show non-eligible, if you are confident a transfer is coming. |
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| re: It hasn’t opened yet. | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 04:52 pm EDT 10/10/23 | |
| In reply to: re: It hasn’t opened yet. - oddone 04:46 pm EDT 10/10/23 | |
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| Brandon Victor Dixon was nominated for a DD while Joshua Henry was nominated for a Tony for the same role | |
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| re: It hasn’t opened yet. | |
| Posted by: oddone 05:03 pm EDT 10/10/23 | |
| In reply to: re: It hasn’t opened yet. - KingSpeed 04:52 pm EDT 10/10/23 | |
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| Are you talking about The Scottsboro Boys? The Broadway transfer happened in the season after the one where the Vineyard production was eligible. So two different seasons. | |
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| re: It hasn’t opened yet. | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 12:15 am EDT 10/11/23 | |
| In reply to: re: It hasn’t opened yet. - oddone 05:03 pm EDT 10/10/23 | |
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| I know it was in two seasons. Just saying two actors were nominated for the same role in which was basically the same production. | |
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