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| re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) | |
| Posted by: dreamawakening 12:29 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) - Chromolume 10:55 am EDT 10/14/23 | |
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| Are there a couple lines in Roadshow that sound like Sondheim sure. | |
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| re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 01:19 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) - dreamawakening 12:29 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
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| LOL. I mentioned that song because it's one of the very few times he reused a trunk song. So it better sound like Sondheim lol. | |
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| re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) | |
| Posted by: peter3053 03:35 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) - Chromolume 01:19 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
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| I really struggle with Mozart, too - always sounding like he wants to be Mozart. And that Beethoven - I keep hearing echoes of Beethoven in Beethoven. When will these guys learn to start sounding like someone else - but of course, they better not imitate anyone else! Sondheim is Sondheim, from first to last, and aren't we lucky! |
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| re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) | |
| Posted by: ilw 04:48 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) - peter3053 03:35 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
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| True, but one of things I love about Sondheim is how he explored new sounds and musical ideas when writing each show, unlike other musical theater composers whose range is much more limited. I think this became less true by the time of Road Show, which doesn't have as many new ideas as his earlier work. | |
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| re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) | |
| Posted by: peter3053 05:16 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) - ilw 04:48 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
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| You mean he got old? How dare he! No, I agree that, for me, Road Show lacks something - but I think it is the basic idea, not the score that arose from it; or rather, the idea couldn't quite generate the depth and the levity we associate with him. I think that the notion of making it like "Road to" movie (Hope and Crosby) from the start never quite matched the actual sordid nature of much of the material. Crosby and Hope at one level don't matter - they don't harm real people because the whole idea of their movies was that they were fantasy. But Willie Mizner comes across as borderline evil, and his brother comes across as peculiarly self-regarding too. Also, unlike the Hope and Crosby films, the two brothers don't go places together right through - they go to Alaska, then they take divergent paths, then encounter each other in Florida - and I think it's a strange structure, to tell parallel stories which don't grow closer, continuously, towards climax. In other words, I think it is the notion which led to the less than stellar score - (I think Bounce was more fun, though) - and yes, I know, it was Sondheim's notion, and actually began to stir him back in the 60s, when he was a lot younger. But I still listen to Bounce and Road Show and marvel. |
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| re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) | |
| Posted by: stevemr 07:17 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) - peter3053 05:16 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
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| " and I think it's a strange structure, to tell parallel stories which don't grow closer, continuously, towards climax" Didn't you mean to say, "Parallel lines who meet? |
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| re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 08:42 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 08:41 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
| In reply to: re: HERE WE ARE Tonight (Possible Spoiler) - stevemr 07:17 pm EDT 10/14/23 | |
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| It just struck me -- couldn't parallel lines meet if you raised or lowered one onto another? It's kind of doable if you think about it. Side by side by side by side... | |
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